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To: Lane3 who wrote (166351)5/13/2006 6:42:45 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 794389
 
So what happens if there's an old style hijacker who just wants to to go to Havana, and half the people on the plane want to relive Flight 93 and the other half don't?



To: Lane3 who wrote (166351)5/13/2006 6:57:58 PM
From: D. Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 794389
 
When hijackers want to be delivered somewhere, they say so

The 911 hijackers made every appearance of being the garden variety "take me to Havana" types. How do you tell the difference? Take them at their word? You'd be a fool. And a dead fool to boot.

Derek



To: Lane3 who wrote (166351)5/13/2006 7:00:53 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 794389
 
It would be better to land in Cuba than down the plane in an effort to retake it.

The hijacker would say anything to get control of the plane. The Pilots would be as clueless as the passengers. You will never see another plane hijacked because they know the passengers would rush the hijackers.



To: Lane3 who wrote (166351)5/13/2006 9:19:10 PM
From: ig  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 794389
 
A basic rule of self-defense is that Crime Scene 2 is almost always worse than Crime Scene 1. Maybe landing in Cuba is better than going down in flames, just as taking a boxcar ride to a work camp where you get to take advantage of the new high-tech delousing chambers is better than making a run for it when the Gestapo comes for you -- or maybe not.

I'd rather get killed jumping a hijacker, knowing that I'm taking my best shot at survival -- and knowing that I've improved the chance that the guy right behind me can take him down if I fail -- than hope things will work out at Crime Scene 2.

Once you start complying with a Bad Guy, you start losing options and you start getting scared; and the more scared you get, the less able you are to act effectively on your dwindling options.

It's better to have your mind made up, way ahead of time, that you are going to take the initiative as soon as you can, before you get too scared to take your best chance to survive. Knowing that your chances of escaping from Crime Scene 2 are almost always thinner than your chances of escaping from Crime Scene 1 should help you make up your mind.

The thought that kept recurring to me as I watched United 93 was: What would have happened if the passengers had made up their minds a few minutes sooner?