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To: dougSF30 who wrote (196733)	5/14/2006 2:40:18 PM
From: Ruppert	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

Core2/Merom use the same 65nm process as 32 bit Core, and the energy saving of turning off the high half of 64 registers when running 32 bit code will bite Intel in the ass when Merom throttles on real 64 bit code. There is no free lunch or magic huge energy saving improvements left. Intel has missed its launch speeds badly on new CPU designs. I just plain do not believe those speeds on those dates, as they are the same as the desktop chips. AMD does ship Turions at top Athlon speeds, but AMD is sandbagging with its desktop chips due to lack of competition from Intel in the desktop space.

To: dougSF30 who wrote (196733)	5/14/2006 4:39:48 PM
From: firthoffourth	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

The T in Merom's model numbering denotes a power consumption range of 25-55W (not including the memory control hub). Doesn't 55W seem a little high for a mobile part? Intel has finally revealed the naming scheme for its upcoming Conroe and Merom chips based on the new Core microarchitecture. The two chip lines will both be branded Core 2 Duo, with a Core 2 Extreme model also expected to join the pack as Intel's top-end desktop chip. Model numbers are said to follow the same pattern introduced with the current Core Duo, with one letter denoting power consumption and four extra digits representing processor denomination and performance grade. According to News.com, Core 2 Duos will bear either a preceding E for 55-75W power consumption or T for 25-55W. Desktop Core 2 Duos will follow with a 4xxx or 6xxx number, while mobile Core 2 Duos will sport 5xxx or 7xxx numbers. Oddly, there is no word about a hypothetical "Core 2 Solo" line to succeed current Core Solo mobile processors, but budget single-core Conroes would certainly make a suitable successor to the Celeron. techreport.com

To: dougSF30 who wrote (196733)	5/15/2006 2:21:43 AM
From: Petz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Do you really believe Intel pulled in Merom by 4-5 months with no change in the clock speeds or wattage? And cutting the FSB to 667 MHz to reduce power consumption will have an effect on IPC relative to desktop Core 2, so I wouldn't count on any IPC advantage over Turion X2 at all. I expect that only the lowest speed grade or two (1.83 and 2 GHz), of the parts listed in your 3-month-old Dailytech article, will be available at launch, and Intel has made no promise that the "design power" will stay at 31 watts. Petz