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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (188530)	6/6/2006 10:31:11 AM
From: jttmab	Respond to of 281500

Outstanding! You've said it far better than I could have ever hoped to accomplish. You're in the winner's circle. jttmab

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (188530)	6/6/2006 10:36:15 AM
From: jttmab	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I see there's been a record number of bodies taken to the Baghdad morgue; 1498 bodies in May. Democracy marches on, we're making good progress. Scratch that....great progress. Placing bolds and underlines along with superlative adjectives is the best way to be persuasive. jttmab

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (188530)	6/6/2006 10:45:21 AM
From: jttmab	Respond to of 281500

More severed heads found in Iraq Police in Iraq have said on Tuesday that they found nine severed heads, wrapped in plastic bags and left in a fruit box by the side of a road. The heads were found near Baquba, north of Baghdad, where police made a similar discovery three days ago. There is no word on the identity of the latest victims. Meanwhile, Iraq's health ministry says the bodies of 6,000 people have been brought into Baghdad's main mortuary this year, most of whom died violently..... news.bbc.co.uk Wow! 6,000 bodies into Baghdad's main morgue in just five months! If you scaled that to the US population which has more than 10 times the population of Iraq, that would be the equivalent of 60,000 American deaths in five months. And that's just from the main morgue. As gem likes to put it..."It's not a perfect world." jttmab

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (188530)	6/6/2006 10:48:44 AM
From: jttmab	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Democracy is surging ahead in Egypt also. With Iraq as the "model" of democracy, who can blame them... Egypt asks US body to halt work Egypt has ordered an American non-governmental organisation which aims to promote democracy to suspend its work in the country. On Monday, a spokesman called on the International Republican Institute to halt work until it had got permission. He accused the local head of the institute, Gina London, of interfering in Egypt's internal affairs. She said in a recent interview that the institute would work to speed up political reform in Egypt. A lawyer for the group said the controversy resulted from a misunderstanding. "The institute has not yet started its activities, it is still in the set-up phase," said Omar Hegazi. .... news.bbc.co.uk

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (188530)	6/6/2006 10:51:04 AM
From: jttmab	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Of course, there's the progress in Somalia.... US 'worried by' Somali Islamists The United States has expressed its concern after an Islamist militia said it had taken control of the Somali capital, Mogadishu. A State Department spokesman did not comment directly but pointedly said: "We don't want to see Somalia turn into a safe haven for foreign terrorists". The US was accused of backing the warlords defeated by the Islamists. The Islamic militia says it has now advanced to within 20km of Jowhar, the town where the defeated warlords fled. In Mogadishu, crowds have attended two rallies in the north after their clan elders warned the Islamists not to attack Jowhar. The elders also said they would set up a court which would be independent of the main Union of Islamic Courts. The BBC's Mohammed Olad Hassan in Mogadishu says some people have been returning to their homes after fleeing during the fighting, but with a stand-off developing in the north of the city there are now fears of more clashes. However, a senior Somali MP told the BBC that the takeover could be a step towards ending 15 years of anarchy. 'New era' Former Information Minister Mohamud Jama told the BBC's Network Africa programme that having a single group in control of Mogadishu for the first time since 1991 could make negotiations easier for the transitional government based in Baidoa, 250km (155 miles) north-west of the capital. Mr Jama also suggested that the Islamic Courts might improve the security situation in the capital. ... news.bbc.co.uk

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (188530)	6/6/2006 4:57:23 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Hawk, that was an easy question: < Why was the Iraqi Air Force, in a Top Secret memo from March, 2001, recruiting pilots for a suicide mission?? Top secret memoranda sent to Al-Kadisseiya Military branch No.2205 dated 04/03/2001 and to the Headquarters of Zee karr military branch No. 246 dated: 08/03/2001 that we were informed by another memo from Ali Unit military branch No. 154 dated: 10/03/2001. We urge you to inform the above mentioned unit of the names of people wishing to volunteer for suicide action to liberate Palestine and strike American interests according to the following below for your information and to let us know. > The bloke who was ranting about it got three translations and surprise, surprise, they came out more or less the same. I am in London [England] and saw an Underground station with Sherlock Holmes profiles all over it. I am somewhat of an international Sherlock myself and I noticed that in none of those translations did a dog bark. Hence, we can deduce that the original was written by the non-existent and disbanded USA official Office of Disinformation. It was written in 2004. Which was after the OoD was disbanded, backdated to 2001 BEFORE it was even formed, which was a very good way of putting most people off the scent. Surely you have some more difficult questions than that one Hawk? Similarly, the one about where did all the antagonistic Iraqis suddenly come from. When one kills, injures, puts boot on neck, terrifies, bullies or otherwise offers indignities and gratuitous dominance to somebody, you don't just disturb the psychic equilibrium of that person, you ruffle a whole flock of feathers. And it isn't just the immediate family. Nor even just the wider tribe. The old six degrees of separation business kicks in and anyone who has reasonably shared identity with that person gets bad vibes, and gets negative feelings towards the perpetrator. So now you know where the thousands of angry people came from. There have been many thousands killed, then there are those maimed, or hurt, or offended etc. I can understand why there would be substantial opposition to the COW occupation, apart from the basic conflict over who gets the oil, the money and the power, not to mention the girls. That's enough to keep a very good conflict going. It's similar to the feeling around the world that the mass murder in the Twin Towers wasn't just an attack on those individuals. What's nice to know is that a good proportion of those who have been attacked by the COW, including "innocent" civilians, thought "Good job!" as the Twin Towers fell. It's a bit like I got satisfaction from knowing that some of the people in the Twin Towers were IRA-supporting "Irish American" firemen. There's poetic justice and karma in profusion. It's all quite Shakespearian really. We can go back to the young couple killed on the bridge in Sarajevo, one from each side of the divide. In Shakespearian tragedies, I don't remember much and only read any because to do engineering one was forced to learn Shakespeare [educationalists have gross brain deficits - I note that to study English literature at university, one isn't obliged to understand calculus, which confirms the educationalists are unfit for purpose]. But back to the Shakespearian bit, what I do recall is that everyone seemed to end up dead. Mqurice aka Sherlock