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To: neolib who wrote (192684)7/22/2006 8:45:23 PM
From: skinowski  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
If Israel, starting in 1948, had always fallen back to the partition lines after beating the Arabs in each war, they would not have the troubles they have now.

Do you seriously believe that? If staying within 1948 borders would buy them peace, then why were they attacked in 1948?.... ;)



To: neolib who wrote (192684)7/22/2006 11:45:25 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
If Israel, starting in 1948, had always fallen back to the partition lines after beating the Arabs in each war, they would not have the troubles they have now.

They weren't attacked to keep them inside the partition lines. They were attacked to wipe them out, by the attackers' own words. Falling back to the partition lines would only have made the Arabs' job easier in the next war.

What is it about this conflict that makes people think this is the one arena where rewarding aggressors with a do-over after each war they start is the moral thing to do?



To: neolib who wrote (192684)7/22/2006 11:48:33 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I'll look into it. Could you provide a history of Jewish terrorism?


Any history of the area will give you the Irgun's war against the British. Most of what the British called 'terrorism' wouldn't even be called that today, but 'sabotage', since it was against military targets. However, there is no denying that the Irgun and Lehi did some terrorism. But it was 1 incident compared to a 100, against what the Mufti's men did. The Haganah, the main force, did not approve.



To: neolib who wrote (192684)7/23/2006 2:46:27 PM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 281500
 
If Israel, starting in 1948, had always fallen back to the partition lines after beating the Arabs in each war, they would not have the troubles they have now.

If rather than partition the land into two ethnic states the parties involved tried to all get along equally in one country(a la Lebanon since 1990) they might not have the troubles that they have today.....