To: Hawkmoon who wrote (9442 ) 9/19/2006 9:45:33 AM From: TobagoJack Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217739 Hello HMoon, <<Civil war?>> ... at what point will you concede that a civil war is full on. If you care to, and dare, define the point now, so that we can watch it approach. <<Of course it was an invasion>> ... there, that wasn't so difficult, was it? No, follow up with the following admission ... the invasion was not welcomed with roses on the sidewalks, resisted by more and more, because the invaders motives were not pure, and aims were too transparent, who then put in place known thugs, scoundrels, and various hangers-on, who than proceeded to loot, as the invaders, under state-sponsored enabling, degenerated and carried out organized machinations and convolutions (besides rape and pillage, killing of women and children), in an otherwise foolish manner, and enabled a civil war, and, by the way, set a horrid example in governance. <<This is insurgency conducted by Jihadists (many of who are now associated with Mujahidin Shura Council and/or Al Qai'da), attempting to replace the former Ba'thist regime, as well as the current government, with an Islamic state>> ... you mean to say it is not possible thatthe population, with 51% majority, wish for a theocracy, ala Iran? Or is it that all who are against the invaders are automatically Jihadist? China's activities in Sudan? Do you mean to say that we should now put democratic USA on the same level surface as China? Given the record in L.America and elsewhere, I suppose your contention is valid. <<How many soldiers do you think China will provide in any UNSC peace-keeping mission to stop the Darfur genocide?>> ... do not know. How many is USA sending? In any case, China is providing 1000 troops to try to stop the genocide in Lebanon, and besides, Chinese troops are not torturing, raping and killing in Iraq. Chugs, J