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To: epicure who wrote (218502)	2/14/2007 5:44:56 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

Female mutilation (called circumcision elsewhere), as most of us would agree, has been barbarous in practice, which is why many places have banned it, even though culturally the local African villages would fight to the death to keep this ancient tradition alive. I am totally against it, but to be fair to Islam, the practice was never encouraged and only permitted in the traditional African tribes, when Mohammad told them that they must change it so as not cause harm to the girl. The ancient pre-Islam tradition was to surgically remove their clitoris and they threatened a genocidal war on Muslims if Mohammad forbade the practice. He told them that he could only permit a harmless nick that would be done only for ritualistic purposes in respect of their culture and must be no more harmful than the circumcision of boys. ... thus the term female circumcision. Obviously there have been some very barbarous and sensational examples that have hit the media. They should be condemned but people like Brian like to snag them to help bolster his hidden bigoted agenda against billions of innocent Muslims who are not representative. Brian is looking for 'hot buttons' to rally people, which he thinks no one can detect at times like this. Since he has picked me as his favorite beastie, I have formed a habit of exposing such things even though people PM me to tell me it is a waste of time. ... since everyone can spot his bigotry a mile a way. And, you probably already knew all of this anyway.

To: epicure who wrote (218502)	2/14/2007 7:19:12 PM
From: Proud_Infidel	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

But what is the purpose of groups such as the United Nations if they cannot stop atrocies like Rwanda or use their influence (and pressure) to put an end to things such as female mutilation? Re: I think, for the world to function, and for these decisions to be made correctly, we need UN approval and support for such invasions. True. But one of the main problems with the current setup of the UN IMO is the fact that one of five countries on the Security Council can use its veto power if it serves their purpose, but not the worlds. IMO, that needs to change.