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To: Elroy who wrote (196923)	2/18/2007 3:16:01 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793743

But since the Bush admin (and the rest of the world) were wrong about the whole presence WMD thing (:we don't want the warning to come in the form of a mushroom cloud"), it weakens the confidence that I have in Bush's other assessments about the region Logically speaking, shouldn't it weaken your confidence in the CIA's current assessments about the region? Including its assessment that Iran won't have nukes for years (an assessment that the Israelis do NOT agree with)?

To: Elroy who wrote (196923)	2/18/2007 3:18:52 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793743

I'm skeptical that 130k troops over 3 years couldn't achieve American goals in Iraq, but 145k will be able to do that. If all that is changing is the numbers, you are right to be skeptical. But they claim the strategy is changing too. We'll have to wait and see. It certainly isn't aided by confirming Petraeus on one hand, and passing "let's run away" resolutions on the other.

To: Elroy who wrote (196923)	2/18/2007 3:23:29 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793743

I don't believe him that the residents of Gitmo are evil horrible killers that don't deserve a trial. So what do you do with captured Al Qaeda? Since they arepart of an active army that is trying to kill Americans, you cannot try one without exposing your actions to capture others still at large. Besides, they are not criminals - they aren't doing this for profit, and they don't fall under American legal juridiction. But they sure don't follow the Rules of War either. So what do you do with them? I don't believe him that the Iranian government are actively supporting Iraqi insurgent groups trying to kill Americans. This one you should believe. The evidence is all over. Everybody in the whole Mideast knows it. The only news is that Iran has shifted from using its proxy Hizbullah to kill Americans to using its own Qods forces directly. Our guys have already captured both Iranian weapons and Qods forces trainers inside Iran. If the Iranians captured US weapons AND US Marines in Tehran, would you believe their charges?

To: Elroy who wrote (196923)	2/18/2007 3:31:54 PM
From: Ichy Smith	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793743

I don't believe him that the residents of Gitmo are evil horrible killers that don't deserve a trial. I don't know about all the prisoners in Gitmo, but those who killed medics, or wore civilian clothes or were spies or were terrorists should have been shot when captured. holding people under the Geneva conventions is for a very specific group of people, soldiers. Non uniformed people from outside the countries involved, don't qualify, neither do suicide bombers, or other terrorists, for example members of hizbollah who go into Israel to kidnap soldiers are not covered..... . The problem is the US didn't obey the conventions and kill them when they caught them. BAD US BAD.