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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (220591)	2/23/2007 7:31:43 PM
From: carranza2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

The Tet offensive was a huge failure for the Vietcong. You wouldn't think so by reading the reports or watching the televised news of the time, all of which I remember vividly. en.wikipedia.org It was literally years before the extent of the VC near catastrophe became well known. And I can assure you that there will be a hue and cry about how wrong I am. Oh, well. It's unfortunate but perceptions do matter, and most people are sheep; their perceptions are about as accurate as Chicken Little's and as easily manipulated. By the way, I recommend to you two short articles in the Feb. issue of Foreign Affairs, the by first the Singapore Prime Minister, Lee Kuan Yew, entitled The United States. Iraq and the War on Terror. The second is by Dominique Moisi, The Clash of Emotions, in which she posits that just as Arabs and Muslims are ruled by shame, the West is ruled by fear. The argument is not fleshed out too well, but it is a very interesting notion nonetheless.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (220591)	2/24/2007 3:50:09 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

The right has loathed MSM coverage of the war from start, saying that the MSM has steadfastly portrayed the most negative picture possible from Iraq, passed along insurgent propaganda with greater credence than they give to the US military, and constantly portrayed US troops as either victims or perpetrators of crimes, with hardly any mention of what missions they were doing or when they did anything well. That's correct there has been little reporting about how 2,000 Iraqi troops are trained up the level where they can take the place of 1,000 US troops so those 1,000 US troops can leave Iraq and come home. That's been the main "mission" of the coalition troops since the fall of Saddam's regime. Are you telling us that type of thing is happening, but it's not getting reported? There have been some Medals of Honor awarded in Iraq. The highest miliary honor. Did you read about them? Do you know what they were given for? The good news out of Iraq isn't supposed to be about the US military winning honors, it is supposed to be the emergence of an peaceful, secular Iraq that is able to govern itself. If that is taking place, your right, it is not being reported in the US media. Of course, the need to send an additional 20k troops is indicative that the mission is not succeeding, but don't blame the media for it.