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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (223823)3/12/2007 9:23:23 PM
From: carranza2  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Not to mention that the fundamentalists detest our culture.

They don't like 'uppity' women, religious tolerance, a hedonistic approach to life [actually, they love that, but cannot admit it], sexual liberation, and everything that Israel and the West mirror into their countries and culture.

If Israel were to cease to exist, their grievances and demands would skyrocket because they would have played a role in its disappearance, thereby becoming emboldened beyond measure. Coupling these grievances with 'success' in getting rid of the bane to them that is Israel would result in an intensification of the cultural clash that would escalate into warfare the like of which is difficult to imagine.

This is one of the reasons to support Israel, IMO. While I think we should do so on purely moral grounds, the fact is that Israel also, rightly or wrongly, has unintentionally turned out to be a protective lightning rod for the West. We are morally and practically bound to not allow that lightning rod's existence ever be in doubt.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (223823)3/12/2007 10:01:19 PM
From: bentway  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Nadine, your perennial objective is to keep the US tied to Israel, their fates intertwined, an arrangement that is all in Israel's favor but benefit us not at all.

Supporting Israel is not in our national interest. We get NOTHING but grief by supporting Israel.

Arabs won't love us if we drop Israel. But, they won't hate us as MUCH, and might have some hope for us.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (223823)3/13/2007 12:35:31 AM
From: SARMAN  Respond to of 281500
 
Hey Nazine,
watch this,
youtube.com
youtube.com
youtube.com
Listening to that idiot is like reading your posts. You two are so much alike, I wonder why?