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Politics : Israel to U.S. : Now Deal with Syria and Iran -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: sea_urchin who wrote (15242)	5/20/2007 5:35:13 PM
From: Crimson Ghost	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22250

Dumb European goy paying a heavier blood price in the Zionist inspired "war on terror" Germany's Steinbrueck says 11 German soldiers killed in Afghan attack POTSDAM, Germany (Thomson Financial) - Eleven German soldiers have been killed in a suicide blast in Afghanistan, a leading German Cabinet minister said today. At the G8 meeting of finance ministers here, Germany's Peer Steinbrueck said eleven soldiers had died in the northern town of Kunduz. Earlier, military forces in Afghanistan reported that they had killed scores of Taliban fighters in separate operations overnight, with the bodies of nearly 70 left on one battlefield. Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahed said his organisation was responsible for the blast that killed the German soldiers. The movement vowed last month to step up attacks in the north, which has seen relatively little of the violence gripping the south and east. Today's attack was the most deadly strike against the German deployment to Afghanistan since 2003, when four were killed in a suicide car bombing in Kabul. Germany has around 3,000 troops there, operating largely in the north of the country. Twenty-one German soldiers have lost their lives in Afghanistan since 2002, including the ones killed on Saturday. Around 60 foreign soldiers involved in the international mission to Afghanistan have died this year, most of them in attacks or combat. pan.pylas@thomson.com afp/pp/vlb iii.co.uk

To: sea_urchin who wrote (15242)	5/22/2007 5:01:43 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22250

Re: What you're missing is that arguing with Gus is like trying to catch a greased pig -- whenever he's cornered he drops a fart and slips away. Not a very flattering comparison... Anyway, Crimson's problem shows in the post below: Message 23553058 Crimson simplistically believes that "the only deterrent to war" so far is Iran's ability to wage severe reprisals on her would-be aggressors and I disagree, my opinion being that the only, real deterrent to widening the mess to Iran lies half a world away: it's China! Somehow, Crimson's rationale is but the poor rehash of peacenik propaganda before the second Iraq war. Remember what we were told by Crimson's precursors: "Uh-oh, Iraq won't be a cakewalk! Iraq is no Afghanistan! Afghanistan didn't have a proper state military... Afghanistan was a failed state made up of quarrelling tribes. But Iraq is a whole another ball-game: Saddam turned it into the world's FOURTH military power!! Beside the regular troops comes the elite Presidential Guard --Ooh la la! The Presidential Guard's gonna fight to death to defend the Iraqi regime! Upgraded Scuds will rain down all over the region --from Tel aviv to Ryiadh! Oh no, you don't want to attack Iraq." And guess what happened? You and party-pooper Crimson know what happened: Iraq was defeated in a matter of weeks, the dreadful Presidential Guard was a no-show and Saddam Hussein was ignominiously paraded by his American jailers a mere six months later.... Today were are being served the very same bugaboo: Oh, but Iran is no Iraq! Iraq was a fractious, divided polity, made up of several contentious constituencies --sunnis, shiites, kurds, christians, etc. Saddam had no real support... But Iran is quite another kettle of fish --it's four times as big as Iraq, Iranians are united behind their leadership. The Iranian military's got topnotch missiles. Then there's Iran far-reaching tentacles that could strike back anywhere, anytime!! Hezbollah in Lebanon, Hamas in Gaza, Moqtada al Sadr in Iraq!! Not to mention the Revolutionary Guard --oh no, you don't want to fight the invincible Revolutionary Guard, Iran's elite stormtroopers. See the pattern? Gus