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To: cnyndwllr who wrote (960)	5/25/2007 4:00:36 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4152

What does the 35 years under Saddam have to do with the flaming hatred of many of the current generation of Iraqi children watching the Americans who are directly responsible for the violent deaths of so many family members? Enough of this BS Ed!! What about the current generation of Iraqi children who are seeing their parents blown up at the markets, and in their mosques? What about the family who was attacked by Al Qai'da terrorists while attending the funeral of one of the leaders of the anti-Al Qai'da tribes in the Anbar province?? Listen pal.. this goes BOTH WAYS!! Why the hell do you think the Anbar tribes are rebelling against Al Qai'da in the first place?? First off, Al Qai'da violated the rules under which they were offered safe haven amongst the tribes. They attempted to subvert and dominate the traditional tribal leadership structure there. Secondly, when these tribal shayhks balked at having Islamic republics created on their territory and having to subordinate themselves to foreigners, or powerful local clerics, they fought back. Thirdly, when it was reported that tremendous amounts of oil could be located within their tribal areas, they knew that only Western technology could exploit this tremendous new source of economic wealth and tribal empowerment. So while you're wondering about how many Iraqis are going have vendettas against Americans, you should be focusing a bit more attention on the all the enemies the Jihadists are creating in Iraq. Hawk

To: cnyndwllr who wrote (960)	5/25/2007 6:28:18 PM
From: kumar	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 4152

What does the 35 years under Saddam have to do with the flaming hatred of many of the current generation of Iraqi children watching the Americans who are directly responsible for the violent deaths of so many family members? Message 23294298 "It was 2003 when I posted on SI that the US invasion of Iraq was a mistake UNLESS we were prepared to be there (AND PAY THE PRICE) for a generation long worth of time, effort and money. If one understands that 30 years under a dictator has shaped the thought process of the current adult, and it takes about the same time to educate todays kids (tomorrows adults) that the world has changed, its not hard to understand the results we have seen. Today it seems obvious to me that we do not want to do that. Therefore, we should leave the country and let them manage it in whatever way they want."

To: cnyndwllr who wrote (960)	5/25/2007 7:04:56 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4152

And, while you're thinking about it, where were the tough, willing to die fighting-Iraqis for the last 35 years? Or, put another way, why is that they hate our presence enough to die fighting against the best equipped and best trained army in the world while they generally passively accepted what you claim was the much worse rule of Saddam Hussein? They didn't passively accept squat under Saddam Hussein. If they had, he wouldn't have had to massacre 300,000 people + and dump them in mass graves. I don't CLAIM Saddam Hussein's rule was much worse - it WAS much worse. The Iraqis who are dying today may blame the Americans for not keeping order, but they KNOW, because they are there, that the Americans, that they are dying at the hands of other Iraqis, very often at the same hands that killed them under Saddam, who are now in the Sunni insurgency.