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To: TimF who wrote (5606)	6/12/2007 5:49:54 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25737

Doesn't the question (economically speaking...) become "who's ox is getting gored?" Because, if the feds are forcing unfunded service mandates upon the States (as States have charged, in relation to immigration issues, no child left behind, etc., etc.) that's ONE THING.... While, the federal budget itself might be benefiting from the presence of illegals in our economy (working under phony SS numbers, from which phony accounts they can not collect SS benefits in the future)... as the Congressional Budget Office and the Social Security Administration have calculated, tens of billions going into the SS program (and, indirectly supporting the SS payouts for legal citizens....) WHOSE ox, and WHAT costs are being considered....

To: TimF who wrote (5606)	6/12/2007 6:00:49 PM
From: Jim S	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25737

This clearly expresses a fundamental tenet of conservative/libertarian thinking: that engaging in risky behavior with serious social costs is an entitlement. People who are injured by metal bats, or fall ill from smoking or fatty food, cost the rest of us money. We pay their emergency room bill, their Medicare bills or their Social Security disablity insurance. Only someone willing to forgo those benefits should have the right to also opt out of public health laws... I wonder if that same "tenet" applies to everyone who engages in voluntary risky behavior? Like driving to work in the morning?