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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (2288)	7/12/2007 12:49:55 PM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4152

Your obsession with the NYTImes and the State Department is extreme and becoming legendary. SD brought us al queda. NYTimes is always wrong whether its oped or news reporting. But give you Rush and Rummy and you have an orgasmic reaction. Now i will take state and nyt anyday.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (2288)	7/12/2007 1:06:53 PM
From: GST	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4152

<The pros at State wanted no part of planning anything for Iraq> The pros at State definitely saw that the invasion of Iraq was stupid. But they developed plans anyway, and their plans were brushed aside by Rumsfeld. Ask anybody who ever met with Rumsfeld whether or not he listened to anybody who was not inclined to parrot back his own opinions -- ditto for Cheney. He was single-mindedly deaf to all who might have helped him see the disaster he would preside over in Iraq. He and Cheney were the perfect team to launch a misguided war and prosecute it without common sense or basic competence that was readily available elsewhere within the US Government. I see now that Bush has taken to blaming General Franks for the miserable screw-ups in Iraq -- how pathetic to see the Commander in Chief point the finger at anybody but himself, Cheney and Rumsfeld for this miserable failure of foreign policy.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (2288)	7/12/2007 4:40:31 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4152

The pros at State wanted no part of planning anything for Iraq. The plan of the pros at State involved propping up Mideast dictators forever. The pros at State were happy to see Saddam continue in office. The State Dept apparachiks rarely support anything that disrupts the current political situation. They are not about "rocking the international boat" and confrontation.. They are about perpetuating the previous agreements that they hashed out.. And they certainly have no interest in seeing DOD dictate policy on the diplomatic field.. Hawk