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To: Brumar89 who wrote (2563)7/20/2007 2:08:18 PM
From: GSTRead Replies (4) | Respond to of 4152
 
The US considers itself free to send special forces into any country in the world to carry out assassinations, kidnappings and secret renditions where we can hold people without any legal or human rights and torture them, not to mention our self-appointed right to organize groups to overthrow governments and assassinate heads of state -- but you want to suggest that those nasty Iranians are the really bad guys in Iraq because Iranians have been found in Iraq. Check it out -- Iraq is crawling with Americans who can kill anybody at will as they have complete immunity from Iraqi law, and have done so on a scale we dare not contemplate because it would make most Americans puke -- and we granted ourselves that immunity so that no Iraqis could hold us accountable for what we do in their country. Lets be clear, if a soldier walks down any street in any city in Iraq and blows the head off a child standing by the road there is nothing the Iraqi government can do about it. Your indignation at the thought that Iranians might in some way be helping Iraqis who see themselves as ridding themselves of a brutal foreign military occupation is somewhat misplaced. Iran and Iraq will work together long after we have packed our bags and gone home. It is hardly shocking that there is a connection now, although the extent of that connection is subject to widely varying assessments.

Further, if attacked by us, Iran has the right to defend itself and other countries, including Russia and China have every right to help Iran defend itself against us. It is already frequently assumed by some that we are engaged in a proxy war where we have violated Iranian sovereignty and are actively promoting Iranian organizations who have as their aim the overthrow of the government of Iran. Do you know of any Iranian efforts to send Iranian special forces into the US or to sponsor groups whose aim is to overthrow the US government? Not likely.

You want to live in a world heading to hell in a handbasket based on a one-way macho assessment of who has the right to do what -- and in your view we always have the right to do whatever the hell we want to do and are immune for judgement by others. I don't. On the other hand I not want Iran to feel comfortable committing murder and violating Iraqi sovereignty -- but at this stage our own violations of Iraqi sovereignty loom so large that you will never achieve anything close to peace until you work out how to give Iraqis their country back and accept than Iranians will indeed play some role in shaping the future of Iraq.