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To: Freedom Fighter who wrote (109486)	10/8/2007 12:58:13 PM
From: Knighty Tin	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 132070

Wayne, we see delusion in different places. Where I see delusion is the right thinking, "the economy is great now, so we can afford a cute little war for no reason." The economy is not great now. We cannot afford a war that offers us nearly 0 economic or political upside, and where the threat to the USA is not increased if we withdraw. (The threat to Israel may be increased, but should that come out of our blood and taxes?) I guess this economic argument really hit home when Bush vetoed the Schip program. Many, many GOP made the argument that $30 billion over 5 years is way too much to pay for kid's health. Yet, they are willing and eager to pay $30 billion for 45 days of wallowing in the muck that is Iraq. There are a lot of emotional arguments that can be made. "We don't want socialized medicine" on the rate and "we'd rather make kids healthy than kill them overseas," on the left. But putting the two numbers side by side makes it clear what the right thinks of fiscal responsibility and demanding efficiency for our tax dollars. To think the Left has not thought out the issues of the war is a silly argument. Democrats have thought it out, too. But they are afraid to cut off funding. Why? Because we have a crazy man as President who would let our troops remain over there without enough support and equipment, just in the vain hope that a lot of them would get killed to prove "he was right." The Congress controls the purse strings, but the Chimp can keep troops deployed with or without enough money to defend themselves. That is a danger all of us have to worry about. Stand downs and withdrawals are tough enough with a willing Commander in Chief.

To: Freedom Fighter who wrote (109486)	10/8/2007 6:34:20 PM
From: Skeeter Bug	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 132070

>>KT, Honestly, I think you are missing my point. I have no problem with people wanting to end the war as long as they understand all the issues and risks well and have determined that the upside so far outweighs the economic and political risks that it's the best thing to do. The problem I have is when people are "delusional" and overly "idealistic" in their understanding of the economic and political risks and come to that conclusion because things aren't going well now.<< Wayne, why do you require so much more from those who would end the war compared to those who started the war? isn't that backwards? just a bit...