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To: Sea Otter who wrote (244870)	10/13/2007 8:25:31 PM
From: Ruffian	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei Urges Muslims to Boycott U.S. -Led Mideast Peace Conference Saturday, October 13, 2007 * E-Mail * Print * Digg This! * del.icio.us AP Oct. 13: Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei delivers the Eid al-Fitr prayer in Tehran, Iran. TEHRAN, Iran — Iran's supreme leader called on Muslim countries Saturday to boycott a U.S.-sponsored international peace conference on the Middle East, saying the meeting would hurt the Palestinians. "Efforts are being made to once again make an imposition on the Palestinian people in the name of peace. ... The result of all conferences held in the name of peace so far have been to the detriment of the Palestinian nation," Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei said in a speech marking the end of the Muslim holy fasting month of Ramadan. Khamenei was referring to an upcoming U.S.-hosted international peace conference on the Middle East planned for next month. The United States has kept quiet on the most basic details about the meeting, including precise dates, the guest list and the location — though it is expected to be in Annapolis, Maryland. U.S. officials have said the November session will be a serious run at problems that have proved insoluble in the past. But Khamenei said the conference was a "deception" that must be shun by Muslims all over the Middle East. "When the Palestinians see this is as a deception, everybody has to see it as a deception. This U.S. initiative is an effort to save the Zionists," Khamenei said. Iran doesn't recognize Israel and wants the establishment of a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital. Khamenei, who has the final say on all state matters in Iran, has repeatedly called Israel in the past a "cancerous tumor" that need to be removed from the Middle East. Khamenei comments come amid growing skepticism of the conference among some Arab governments, which have expressed doubts the planned gathering will tackle the main issues of the conflict with Israel. The Bush administration has said it will invite adversary Syria to the conference, but Syrian President Bashar Assad has all but ruled out his country's participation. Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia have not said whether they will attend. The head of the Palestinian Hamas government, Ismail Haniyeh, in the Gaza Strip also has urged Arab countries not to attend the conference. The Islamic militant Hamas, which is backed by Iran, seized power in Gaza from Fatah security forces loyal to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in June. Abbas retaliated by expelling Hamas from government and setting up a Western-backed government in control of the West Bank. "Palestinians have rejected this (conference). How can other governments attend this conference?" Khamenei said, referring to Hamas. Abbas and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert have met every few weeks in recent months in an effort to formulate a framework for the peace talks. Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat has said they have come to some agreements, but he would not elaborate.

To: Sea Otter who wrote (244870)	10/13/2007 11:15:54 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

True that he's not objective, but I'm not sure who would qualify as objective Sanchez was removed after the Abu Ghraib scandal. Normally when somebody says something to cover his own ass he is not granted tremendous moral suthority. If he were defending Bush against someone else, the press would note the conflict of interest. But since he's bashing Bush, they'll report it as gospel and just skip over the parts where he blames the Democratic party, the State department, and above all, the press, for complete abdication of their duties as Americans. And my honest read was that he was referring to all soldiers who oppose the war. To me it's clear that he didn't mean that, since he had just been talking about Jesse Macbeth and soon returned to the subject, talking about Jesse Macbeth and Scott Thomas Beauchamp and the uncritical acceptance of their stories by the left. Did you read more than the three paragraphs? Rush was unclear in the immediate reference. on the right, the active disinformation campaign on global warming. Um, it only counts as "disinformation" if the science of global warming has been proven. Despite what the BBC & others tell us every hour on the hour, the state of the science is nowhere near that good. The IPCC predictions have changed quite dramatically from one report to another. Respected climatologists at MIT and scientists like Freeman Dyson warn that the models are not in a state that can be relied on for prediction, since they are full of what Dyson calls "fudge factors." Also, the so-called "information" campaign on global warming is full of completely unsupported assertions that predicted global warming will lead to disaster. As Bjorn Lomberg just pointed out, a two degree rise in temperature is likely to save lives, since cold kills more people than heat. The IPCC predicts the sea will rise 1 foot in the next century. We hear all the time about the dangers of sea rise; but never that the sea rose 1 foot in the last 150 years and civilization survived without a hiccup. No, global warming stands more as another example of rewarding "fake but accurate", esp. on the day when they just gave Al Gore's lying dcoumentary the Nobel Peace Prize. Gore said that the polar bears are all drowning (their population has increased 5-fold in the last 40 years), Antarctic ice is melting (it's getting thicker), and sea is about to rise 20 feet (IPCC says 6 inches - 2 feet), but what the hey, he's on the side of the angels, so who gives a f---, right?