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To: attila hooper who wrote (24702)	11/1/2007 11:37:31 PM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217789

Attila, very opportune your posting mentioning the Fleur de Lys. The Star of Canada just got a letter from me about an article they published about Brazil beinf awarded the World Cup 2014. thestar.com Now let me show you what I think: QUOTE Sirs, I refer to “FIFA gives Canada slap in the face, Nov 01, 2007. Please, never ever forget: The games are won inside the pitch, the ball doesn’t roll before the referee whistles and the game only ends after 90 minutes. Allow me please to show the irony of the whole situation, when countries take the high moral ground and comment on the game before the ball started rolling. In 1970, when Montreal was named to host the Summer Olympics '76, organizers estimated it would cost $310 million to stage the Games. However, due to political corruption, mismanagement, labor disputes, inflation and a $100 million outlay for security to prevent another Munich, the final bill came to more than $1.5 billion. infoplease.com Let’s look how we compare with the others that are, beforehand, judging our capabilities. World Cup 2006 won by Italy which was plagued by match fixing scandals in 2005. Juventus the champion was relegated to second division and stripped of the Scudetto. World Cup 2006. The president of German soccer club 1860 Munich was held on charges of accepting bribes in connection with the building of the city's new stadium, which will host the opening match of the 2006 World Cup. The club president and his son, Wildmoser junior, and two other men were suspected of pocketing €2.8 million, or one percent of the overall construction costs of the new stadium which will house Wildmoser's club and Germany's champion Bayern Munich, said the chief prosecutor in the case, Christian Schmidt-Sommerfeld. The Salt Lake City Olympic bribery row shattered the Olympic ideal of fair play - and almost lost the city one of the world's greatest sporting events. Civilization? Just remember the Euro 2000 with the street battles in Belgium and Holland. Melee during Euro 2000 tournament may have resulted in banning of national teams in future contests The land that gave the world the Hooligans is organizing the Olympics 2012 and no one is saying anything! Backroom deals? The chairman of the Siemens Group in Greece and another senior company official testified Wednesday before a prosecutor investigating possible wrongdoing in the awarding of a major security contract for the Athens 2004 Olympics, court officials said. Look closely! It doesn’t look that is Brazil the one with a problem. “The dispute over finances for the London 2012 Olympics has continued with Conservatives accusing the Government of not giving Games organisers the "basic financial details". Shadow Olympics minister Hugh Robertson has claimed Jowell had implicitly admitted the Government and Olympic Board did not know the exact state of the budget.” Should we agree, henceforth, to stick to the inside the pitch thing? Kind Regards UNQUOTE With me is like that, there's no hearing from the uncle of the friend of my cleaning lady. I kill the snake and show the stick. The letter was sent to The Economist, Fiancial Times and The Independent of the UK. All of them them published the Sacre Bleu! Horreur! Brazil will screw up...

To: attila hooper who wrote (24702)	11/2/2007 1:07:11 AM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217789

One of the reasons poorer countries are more vocal about their politicians' backroom deals is because there's a limited amount of money to go around. In richer countries, because there's a lot of money going around, everyone is a stakeholder. There's incentive to keep mum, neither rock the boat nor blow the whistle. You have always something to lose. In a poor country you’ve got not much to lose then you speak loud about your leadership. Obviously if people are smug they are not vocal about their own government. Germany is a case in point where there's never a reform. Any point of the system you touch, you hit a stake holder special interest. Thus calcifies the system. I'm not saying there is or there is not, I am saying, how we should look at the system ad be able to see what it is there but it is not clear cut

To: attila hooper who wrote (24702)	11/2/2007 11:50:23 AM
From: gg cox	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 217789

Fellow Canuck<<get off your high horse, admit that there are corrupt ideals everywhere.>> Looks like the Media in Canada has stayed on former Conservative Prime Minister of Canada Brian Mulroney's case and have him in a corner now for accepting $300,000.00 in cash, from former Air Bus linked associate. There is no way out for him as he apparently declared this cash on his income tax, years later , as the noose was drawing tighter. It was interesting to watch how polished experienced politicians are at lying as in Clinton and the "sexual relations"<<gg>> Canadian Consevatives do not have a lock on corruption as only a few years back Liberals were passing fat envolopes under table also.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gomery_Commission It is the way we are.Strong media, not corruptable<<gg>> to keep the scoundrels at bay,needed everywhere.