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To: cnyndwllr who wrote (247891)	11/9/2007 12:13:17 PM
From: Ruffian	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<I think the seeds of the Iraq war were laid by some vocal Republican politicians who, over the years, argued that "we could have won in Vietnam if not for the gutless Democrats." If this nation had, instead, forthrightly faced the truths that so many died in Vietnam to teach us we'd have never attempted to "change" Iraq.> that is exactly the correct way describe Dems............

To: cnyndwllr who wrote (247891)	11/9/2007 12:15:14 PM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"The lesson of Vietnam is that we can destroy with military power but we cannot build a sovereign people's nation, or at least not in the image we want." WW2 proves we can if we really want to destroy but i take your point. Though I agree with you on iraq and nation building, that doesnt mean that it cant be in our interest to fight a war for reasons of national interest even in iraq. You cant use vietnam so you can be a pacifist. There are wars worth fighting and if we cant build democratic institutions so be it.