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To: Peter Dierks who wrote (24346)	12/4/2007 10:24:39 AM
From: Oral Roberts	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 71588

I don't know if you caught this on pfp. This is truly hilarious and shows just how desperate the Hildabeast and handlers must be at this stage. Funnier yet, it's early. She could very well be a laughing stock by the end of the primary season. Hillary gets stupid about Obama >>Even back when I was a Democrat I always found Mrs. CLINTON to be rather less impressive than the gushing media narratives of the past 15 years would have it, but she seems to be in a panicky/meltdown mode that demonstrates to the masses just how underwhelming she is. In one of the stupidest moves I have ever seen any politician make in any political campaign: Mrs. CLINTON is going after Barack Obama because - while he has publicly said he hadn’t considered a presidential run until recently - he had in fact…wait for it…told his Kindergarten teacher that he wanted to be president! Aides to Mrs. CLINTON lashed out at Mr. Obama’s claim, which he repeated yesterday, that he only recently decided to mount a presidential bid. “I have not been planning to run for president for however number of years some of the other candidates have been planning for,” Mr. Obama said at a news conference in Iowa. The Illinois senator has previously alluded to a disputed allegation in a book by Jeff Gerth and Don Van Natta Jr. that Mrs. CLINTON and President CLINTON made a plan before he took office that she would also seek the presidency. Mrs. CLINTON’s team responded with an opposition research compilation pointing to news reports that Mr. Obama has expressed an interest in the presidency over the years, including as far back as third grade and even kindergarten. “Senator Obama’s comment today is fundamentally at odds with what his teachers, family, classmates, and staff have said about his plans to run for president. Senator Obama’s campaign rhetoric is getting in the way of his reality,” a spokesman for Mrs. CLINTON, Phil Singer, said in the release… Oh. My. Gawwwwwd. Maybe this is what happens when you have so little resourcefulness of your own that you over-rely upon the “research resources” until you get lost in them. Maybe my memory is failing me, but isn’t it commonly thought a “lovable” part of the Bill CLINTON hagiography that he - from a young age - declared his intention to become president to his mother and teachers? Isn’t that a story (and a moment) that is supposed to both awww-endear Bill to us and also burnish his patina as an awesomely visionary “inevitable” man of history? How come Obama’s not allowed the same notions? That seems very picayune and un-inclusionary of Hillary, doesn’t it, that Obama’s not allowed his own lofty vision? But then again, we’re supposed to believe that Mrs. CLINTON never thought about becoming president when she made her first senatorial run. Her ambition was simply to serve the people of New York. And she was “not thinking” about it when she ran for re-election, too. From Larry Sabato: “It’s all too petty,” a professor of politics at the University of Virginia, Larry Sabato, said of the exchange over who first harbored dreams of the presidency. “It shows you how little they have to talk about. There’s not much of a difference between them on the issues.” Mr. Sabato said the CLINTON campaign’s attack seemed more like a send-up from the news satire site “The Onion” than a serious political statement. “Nobody cares in the slightest,” he said. “I’ve had easily 1,000 students tell me they’re going to be president.” I like the Obama camp’s response: A spokeswoman for Mr. Obama, Jennifer Psaki, ridiculed the CLINTON camp’s tactics. “I’m sure tomorrow they’ll attack him for being a flip-flopper because he told his second-grade teacher he wanted to be an astronaut,” she said. that is rich, just ridicule the dumb bitch Hillary is very lucky there is a writer’s strike going on, or the comics would be running with this. There is an SNL skit waiting to be written here: Bad-crazy-Nurse Ratchet Candidate trying to bat down the Bright & Troublesome Kid, who keeps popping up saying essentially the same thing Bill “I-always-never supported-Iraq” CLINTON says as Peck’s Bad Boy Bill ambles about eating other kid’s lunches and snapping bras. Or something This ill-conceived attack on Obama makes her ripe for endless ridicule. Team CLINTON has just given Team Obama the weapon which could well take Hillary down: mockery. Since it is unlikely that the mainstream press will ever cover the fundraising issues and shady connections that would bring down any politician other than Mrs. CLINTON, her opponents cannot rely on “scandals” to whittle Mrs. CLINTON down to size. Therefore, the candidate who can - by simply shining a humorous light on her own words, actions and tactics - get the country laughing at Mrs. CLINTON, is the candidate who will defeat her. Mrs. CLINTON has been rackety since her awful performance in debate before Tim Russert, but this move - coming right on the heels of the woman’s “see how presidentially I stroll to the microphone to declare how emotionally distraught I was and still am about those endangered campaign workers taken hostage in another state. I’m regal-dammit-regal; write-that-down!” moment gives one the impression that her derby soapbox - the slickest, nackiest, best-funded, favorite vehicle, expected to fly to victory, has perhaps a few loose screws; it has lost a wheel and is skidding and swerving sideways as it careens out of control. That’s how you go into a rollover and heaven knows, that’s not good. A few days ago, Mrs. CLINTON seemed a little too eager to grasp a “victimized-but-presidential” narrative that had me wondering if megalomania was going to become part of the ‘08 campaign. But now, with this move? She just seems like a giant Can O’ Crazy, with New Improved Petty Vindictiveness added. I’m not the only one noting that this was a very stupid move. Obama should make the most of it while he can, because a bad move like this will be quickly buried. theanchoressonline.com

To: Peter Dierks who wrote (24346)	12/5/2007 4:53:52 AM
From: E. T.	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 71588

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