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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (4761)	2/21/2008 6:24:27 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 42652

don't you logically think that if all the systems were a failure, at least one of them would have dumped it? I know Tim has made this point repeatedly and so have I. It's hard to go back. Once people are used to getting something for free, it would have to be absolutely horrid before they'd consider giving it up. Once you go socialized, you're pretty much stuck with it. Remember when the Soviet Union failed? That system was horrid but only a few people jumped at the opportunity for something different. Most were reluctant to come out of the dark. And many countries are still in a rut. Social services are predominantly a one-way street.

To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (4761)	2/21/2008 6:42:42 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 42652

don't you logically think that if all the systems were a failure, at least one of them would have dumped it? It doesn't follow as a matter of logic. In terms of deductive logic there simply is no connection. In terms of inductive logic (which is less solid, but easier to apply to more real world situations) the results show that government programs that give out popular "freebies" or subsidies tend to stick around even if they are failures in economic terms. (Look at farm price supports in the US and Europe, look at the sugar quota, the milk compact, and trade restrictions and corporate welfare in general)