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To: Lane3 who wrote (52716)	3/9/2008 10:30:23 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 543198

I have to disagree with both these propositions. On Iraq, with McCain we get a continuation of the wrong war on terror; not the one against Al Qaeda but the one in Iraq. On the SC, with McCain we are very likely to get another one or two Roberts to replace one or two liberal justices whose health is declining. Their youth and their ideology mean we are stuck with a late 19th century SC for a generation at least. Those are both huge.

To: Lane3 who wrote (52716)	3/10/2008 1:02:25 AM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543198

Lane, if you really believe that there wouldn't be much difference between an Obama and a McCain presidency with respect to Iraq, much less Iran, and if you really think that a McCain replacement for one of the liberal/moderate judges wouldn't move the S. Court to the right, then you haven't been listening. McCain's view of the use of American military force to "change the world" is at least as aggressive as that of Bush. When he says that "we'll teach them a lesson" he's not just talking politically. He really believes in "winning" through the use of military force and he's not very smart about how that works, or doesn't work, and why. And if you think that the S. Court will not move to the right if he appoints a "not clearly right wing judge" but rather one like Roberts who leans that way but is smart enough to stay nuanced, you must have a different understanding of the workings of the court than that of most experts. We need a balance to Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and the other new guy, and that means a strong jurist, not some milk toast right leaning judge that can be passed of as "not too terrible." This is really important stuff. That's why I'd hold my nose and vote for Hillary if she somehow won out over Obama even though I have a great deal more respect and admiration for the character of John McCain. Ed