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To: Brumar89 who wrote (379523)4/21/2008 1:51:19 PM
From: michael97123  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1573889
 
I dont agree with you on this. They coopted the word socialist but didnt create a socialist state either of the communist or democratic socialist variety. Frankly they coopted not only the workers but the churches, the capitalists and the army. It should have been called the national socialist, capitalist, christian, militarist state. They coopted it all. Hell throw in democracy. Indeed the sob did win an election as well, like Hamas. Hell if jimmy carter were alive then, he would have gone to chat with hitler, no?

Back to Jimmy, he says hamas will sort of maybe recognize israel. So lets put their feet to the fire. Wont matter, when they break their word, israel will be blamed by the TEDS of the world.



To: Brumar89 who wrote (379523)4/21/2008 3:29:04 PM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1573889
 
"It seems odd to me that its so important to deny that Nazi is short for National Socialist German Workers Party "

I have never denied that. But, keep trotting the little straw guy out at every opportunity.

"and that they thought they were socialists."

Other than the fact that there is no evidence they actually thought that?

"Sheesh, he called himself and his party socialist, but didn't mean it. You'd have to read his mind to know that."

Not really. Just look at the policies that were implemented.

"I would consider this different because he ruled a country which was overwhelmingly at least nominally Christian."

Bingo. Now, factor in that Germany had a long history of trade unions and worker's parties and what do you have? The labor movement in the US, which succeeded in establishing the 8 hour work day and 40 hour work week, grew out of the German movement. Many of the early American labor leaders were German immigrants. So calling themselves a socialist worker's party was a no-brainer.

"if you could show the vast majority of the German people were at least nominally socialist."

Brumar, educate yourself on Weimar Republic Germany. I have to point out, the framework for communism was founded on the works of Karl Marx and Frederik Engels.

Here is a hint. They weren't French.