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To: koan who wrote (78301)	4/24/2008 3:37:26 PM
From: philv	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 116555

Here's something not many people are talking about including Gore. "By the time the unprecedented infestation ends, the rice-sized beetles will have killed so many trees that an extra billion tonnes of carbon dioxide will be wafting through the atmosphere, researchers from the Canadian Forest Service report in the journal Nature today. That is five times the annual emissions from all the cars, trucks, trains and planes in Canada, says lead author Werner Kurz, who warns the beetle's impact goes far beyond the B.C. border." canada.com

To: koan who wrote (78301)	4/24/2008 5:29:10 PM
From: Merlinson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116555

U of Oregon Physics162: Renewable Energy For anyone interested, here is a link to a college level physics class on renewable energy. It's getting a little old so I'm not sure all the links work anymore. It's hard to find many sites that even try to be objective, it's so politicized. I though this one was pretty good. It at least made an attempt. zebu.uoregon.edu

To: koan who wrote (78301)	4/24/2008 11:26:32 PM
From: kormac	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116555

Why would one want to convert coal to synthetic oil? There is no point of doing so. There is an article in the March 24th, 2008 issue of Oil & Gas Journal on this and the author claims that you lose half the energy in the process. He also has a table with the following numbers. World reserves of: Oil 191000 million tonnes of oil equivalent NG 165000 million tonnes of oil equivalent Coal 213000 million tonnes of oil equivalent So, the world's coal reserves are only 11% larger than the oil reserves in energy value. How about leaving some of this stuff to our children?