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To: Lane3 who wrote (62429)	4/29/2008 5:17:45 PM
From: Patricia Trinchero	Respond to of 544294

Amen!

To: Lane3 who wrote (62429)	4/29/2008 5:37:30 PM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 544294

>>Just for the record, I'd like to note how prickly saying anything negative about Wright on this thread was perceived not so long ago...<< Karen - Just for the record, I'd like to point out that his appearance at the National Press Club occurred just yesterday. Up until that point, most of us, including Obama, were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, and to give him credit for his many good works over the years. And rightly so, I believe. I don't think we should be quick to judge someone to be a racist and a hate monger, which Wright has been accused of being. Even now, I can't say that I would agree with that characterization. Misguided, egotistical, divisive, yes. - Allen

To: Lane3 who wrote (62429)	4/29/2008 5:47:09 PM
From: Dale Baker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 544294

And just for the record, speaking only for myself, I can't find any defense of Wright among my posts on this thread. My theme was always to focus on Obama rather than the sideshow. Message 24424112 Once Wright tried to make himself center stage, he deserved the heave-ho he got.

To: Lane3 who wrote (62429)	4/29/2008 7:16:49 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 544294

Just for the record, I'd like to note how prickly saying anything negative about Wright on this thread was perceived not so long ago... Ah, and just for the record, the previous stuff about Wright was defensible as snippets out of a much larger and more positive legacy. Monday morning was not a snippet.

To: Lane3 who wrote (62429)	4/29/2008 7:24:30 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 544294

You've got to be kidding. Mary and Katelew loved the negative Wright stuff (and that's ok- I can understand why they did. Hillary's their gal.). No one supported Wright's views re:9/11 and AIDS, and no one much supported Wright. Go back and look that discussion over. I think lots of people said negative things about Wright. I'm about as far left on the Wright thing as you can get, and I didn't feel there were many people in my corner. I felt that the prickles were definitely on the anti-Wright side- and I still think that's somewhat unfair. Black rhetoric needs to be judged in the black rhetorical tradition- and if you listen to MLK and Malcolm X and Farrakhan and Sharpton and Jesse - the good reverend Wright starts to seem pretty tame, imo. I think many ...er...white...people don't spend a lot of time listening to black voices. If they'd spent more time listening, Wright wouldn't be such a shock- which in itself shows us how racist this country is. That's not to say the black voices are "correct"- but they certainly are totally marginalized and ignored by the white community, which allows them to evolve in relative isolation. This whole thing is a lot lot ecology- when you separate two populations, they eventually evolve to the point they are distinct species. You can say the same thing about societies.