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To: The Reaper who wrote (20857)	5/18/2008 1:06:21 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25575

You are fighting a religion in anthropogenic GW IMHO.

To: The Reaper who wrote (20857)	5/18/2008 2:17:50 PM
From: Grommit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25575

My last post on the topic also. "The correlation between solar flare activity and global temperature has been shown many times. Unfortunately, the global warming group decides to ignore that theory even though it has more data points than any CO2 study I've seen." I doubt you will look at these. realclimate.org realclimate.org realclimate.org realclimate.org I isn't my job to try to persuade you, I thought I was giving you links you might find useful, but your mind is as set at the 20,000 climatologists who disagree with you. adios. ............ "My personal opinion is that if GW is man made - then it will be. I see no way the world demographics enable a meaningful change in CO2 emissions... Very frankly, I am hugely suspicious of the motivations of CO2 alarmists unless they offer realistic solutions." I agree, except for the last point. The solution, if there is a technologically feasible solution, will be economically tough and therefore will not be politically feasible. Tony Blair said "there is a mismatch in timing between the environmental impact and the electoral impact." So demographics may be the eventual solution. It is very much like the peak oil debate. The skeptics have a loud voice, and no politician wants to be the messenger. Both of these are slow motion catastrophes that would have been better handled with 20 or 30 years of lead time. Tidbit: How did this all start. 1993 Phillip Morris founded an organization to prepare and place opinion articles in key markets. They did not want to fight bans on passive smoking solo, and wanted an organization that appeared multi faceted. The organization was set up to "portray the fears of 2nd hand smoke as just one unfounded fear among others, such as concerns about cell phones and pesticides..." So APCO funded TASSC and charged them with linking tobacco studies which cast smoking in a bad light, with global warming and other studies. all are junk science. legacy.library.ucsf.edu ....