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To: i-node who wrote (390378)	6/11/2008 1:03:31 AM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574727

"Have the American OEMs made mistakes? Of course. But the unions are what has killed them." Sure. We will ignore how Demming handed Detroit his design for quality stuff in the 1950s. What happened? Detroit ignored it, the Japanese embraced it, and the rest is, as they say, history. American car companies are run by bean counters who can't see beyond the current quarter. Their labor costs could be zero and they still wouldn't be able to compete. You are blaming the wrong people. Not that is any great surprise.

To: i-node who wrote (390378)	6/11/2008 2:10:17 AM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574727

"No way. Nissan is coming out with a complete line of electric cars in 2010, 60 models by 2012." Might be true. Now, how did the rank and file affect that decision? Oh, yeah. They didn't. By the way, I am dubious that Nissan can do that. GM is taking a big risk on battery technology to do the Volt in the timeframe they promised. Nissan is going beyond that with their promises. Being a conservative with an IQ of 140 and a near infinite understanding of the issues involved, who do you think has the best chance? Come on. Give reality a chance.

To: i-node who wrote (390378)	6/14/2008 2:18:04 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574727

The unions refused to install it in the center and insisted on installing on one side of the roof. Why? Because it meant the installer had to reach more than 18" to do it. Stupid. When all was said and done, when they finally came to terms, GM had to pay the employees MORE to get them to reach more than 18". If the key problem with American cars was the placement of the roof attenna, you might have a point but the inability of the American car industry to compete in the global marketplace has a lot more to do with corporate mgmt decisions then their unions. But I understand........for righties like you, unions are a convenient scapegoat.