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To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (10922)7/23/2008 11:38:17 AM
From: RonMerks  Respond to of 50505
 
Talk about reversing course-



How about a rally to DOW 12,000 then a correction to 10,000, then a rally to 11,000 then a correction to 9,000.

1 step forward, but ultimately- 2 steps back.

Looks like I may finally get into the black with my USO short.

The rally in financials makes no sense to me- since no one still knows what they're worth- because no one can value all these level 3 assets- or know when housing is going to bottom?

The Fannie & Freddie bailout isn't even finalized and they're rallying? I could see a short covering bounce- but now the momentum traders are lighting these up. I saw where Dennis Gartman went long financials yesterday?

Ron



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (10922)7/23/2008 9:43:44 PM
From: Fiscally Conservative  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50505
 
Slider:

By your words; "We shall see if Bernanke & Co. can manage this de-
leveraging phase without having to massively re-inflate
to stop the carnage."

There it is. You finally said it. To manage this deleveraging phase without having to "massively re-inflate" is wishful thinking at best. But my guess is you already know this.



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (10922)7/23/2008 9:56:52 PM
From: kaydee  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50505
 
Slider you wrote

<<Later tonight I'll try to post some interesting anecdotal
evidence of a serious shoe yet to drop... major cutbacks
in state and local governments due to huge budget shortfalls.>>

I see an article in WSJ. Excellent timing, I must say...

States Slammed by Tax Shortfalls
--------------------------------
By CONOR DOUGHERTY, AMY MERRICK and ANTON TROIANOVSKI
July 24, 2008

The stumbling U.S. economy is forcing states to slash spending and cut jobs in order to close a projected $40 billion shortfall in the current fiscal year.

That gap -- identified Wednesday in a survey by the National Conference of State Legislatures -- is more than triple the size of the previous year's. It is the result of broad economic weakness at the state and local levels that could cause pain throughout this year and into 2010. Sales-tax collections, for example, have been hurt by the housing slump and high gasoline prices, which are prompting cutbacks in consumer spending. Personal income-tax collections have been hit by rising unemployment, while corporate income-tax collections have been eroded by falling profits.

"We expect it to get worse before it gets better," said Corina Eckl, fiscal-program director of the National Conference of State Legislatures. The conference's new report describes the shortfalls states face in their budgeting process for the current fiscal year, which began in July.

A separate survey of economic conditions by the Federal Reserve's 12 regional banks -- the "beige book" -- said economic activity was sluggish across most of the U.S. Consumer spending was "mixed, weak, or slowing" in nearly all areas, despite the distribution of billions of dollars in economic-stimulus checks.

The beige-book survey also said companies are increasingly worried about growth prospects and inflation. Indeed, also on Wednesday, discount chain Costco Wholesale Corp. warned that its profits will fall "well below" Wall Street's expectations for its fiscal fourth quarter ending Aug. 31. It blamed the speed of manufacturers' price increases.

Unlike the federal government, most states are required to balance their budgets. Most have so far resisted tax increases, instead opting for raising prices on things like tolls and college tuition, and cutting back on services like education and health care. Some chose one-time measures such as tapping rainy-day funds that were built up in flusher times. That could lead to future cutbacks if the economy doesn't bounce back in coming months.

The spreading economic weakness also is affecting localities, which are being ravaged by falling property-tax collections and a decline in state aid. In Minnesota, the city of Duluth plans to stop operating its Fun Wagon -- a free trailer stuffed with games and cookout supplies for a neighborhood party. Other services, including a city pool and a fire hall, also are being eliminated.

• Read the full report
• Fed Snapshot Isn't Pretty Picture
• Oil Retreat Takes Pressure Off Fed
• Costco's Profit Is Squeezed by Jump in Costs
• Video: Beige Book's Gloomy Picture [Video]

Several state-university systems are being forced to raise tuition and tighten their belts. Regents at the University of California and California State University system have raised undergraduate fees 7.4% and 10% annually, respectively, to cope with rising enrollment and other costs. For a University of California student, it represents an increase of $490 to $7,126, excluding miscellaneous fees charged by individual campuses.

Virginia Tech is raising its tuition for in-state undergraduates by nearly 11%. "For us it was a matter of, 'Are we going to take professors out of the classroom, or are we going to raise tuition?'" said Lawrence G. Hincker, associate vice president for university relations.

States are also reducing their payrolls and programs. Vermont is cutting about 400 jobs through attrition, while Tennessee is using buyouts and possibly layoffs to eliminate about 3,000 government jobs.

Social services have been hit hard. Ten states have made targeted cuts in Medicaid, while three have cut contributions to the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program.

Bonnie Laughlin, a 52-year-old resident of Hiram, Maine, who cares for four foster children, has seen her daily reimbursement from the state for caring for the children decline from $60 to $52.50 per child this year. The state has also eliminated money for "respite care" -- when foster parents can get away from their kids -- as well as reimbursement for recreation activities for the children.

For instance, Ms. Laughlin has been paying for dance lessons for her 10-year-old autistic foster daughter, but she's not sure she'll be able to keep it up. "It definitely puts hardships on families," Ms. Laughlin said.

The Primary Culprit

The housing slump, now well into its second year, is the primary culprit. The decline in home sales has cut into real-estate transfer taxes. Construction spending and employment has declined. Fewer home sales have resulted in lower sales of home furnishings and washing machines, eating into sales taxes.

Of course, for many states, today's budget woes stem at least partly from expanding their services during the good times and not planning enough for the inevitable downturn.

Meantime, states are dealing with shortfalls of many kinds. According to the report by the association of state legislatures, 22 states are reporting sales taxes that are below forecast. In nine of those states, the collections were below forecasts that had already been reduced downward. Seventeen states had a shortfall in corporate income tax, 11 states were behind on personal-income taxes, and 11 were also behind on miscellaneous taxes such as insurance-premium taxes.

At the same time, costs are rising. Over the past several years, many states have taken over more of their K-12 education funding from local governments, while many others have expanded Medicaid.

Many energy-producing states have been spared some of this pain, and have actually benefited from rising food and gasoline prices. Texas, Wyoming and Colorado have all seen job and income growth continue to rise, which has helped them avoid budget problems.

In Massachusetts, state officials are trying to close loopholes that let companies reduce their tax bills in part by shifting income out of state. "You couldn't afford to simply waste $500 million a year by allowing tax avoidance," says Noah Berger, executive director of Massachusetts Budget and Policy Center, a Boston think tank. The state says it expects to generate $291 million from its crackdown on corporate tax loopholes.

In Illinois, Gov. Rod Blagojevich unilaterally cut $1.4 billion from the $59 billion budget the legislature sent him in May. The state says it expects to save an additional $500 million through belt-tightening at state agencies.

Heavy Cuts

The governor's changes include heavy cuts in spending for education and health care. The state plans about $600 million in health-care cuts, including making hospitals and nursing homes wait longer for Medicaid reimbursements.

Health services, among states' fastest growing costs, are being cut across the country. Ohio is closing two mental-health facilities as state agencies look to shed $733 million. The state is also cutting a program that provides free nicotine patches to smokers.

Virginia's funding for hospitals and nursing homes to care for the poor and elderly was reduced by $76 million over the next two fiscal years, according to an analysis by the Commonwealth Institute for Fiscal Analysis in Richmond, Va. Maine is cutting money for foster care, mental-health services and "flexible funding," which social workers can spend on specific needs for clients.

"Our concern is the fact that the government has assumed responsibility for these things, and now they're basically saying, 'We can't do it anymore,'" says Richard Farnsworth, executive director of Portland, Maine-based Woodford Family Services. "Now the question is, 'Who's going to do it?'"

It's not just humans who are feeling the squeeze. Maine has already closed one fish hatchery, and the state isn't expected to offset the rising price of fuel and fish food, said fishery biologist Forrest Bonney. "In recent years we expanded our stocking program, however all of a sudden we're faced with the additional expense of feeding and transporting" fish, Mr. Bonney said.

--A.J. Miranda, Philip Shishkin, Jim Carlton and Alyssa Abkowitz contributed to this article.

Write to Conor Dougherty at conor.dougherty@wsj.com, Amy Merrick at amy.merrick@wsj.com and Anton Troianovski at anton.troianovski@wsj.com

online.wsj.com



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (10922)7/24/2008 1:19:21 PM
From: RonMerks  Respond to of 50505
 
UNG/Nat Gas down -5% today-

Damn, I may actually make some damn money short USO/UNG.

UNG short is going to give me some mad money to reload in SWC, PAL, and CDE- on the cheap.

Ron



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (10922)8/4/2008 10:40:31 AM
From: RonMerks  Respond to of 50505
 
UNG Nat Gas sinking- down another -3.5% today

Slider nice call on shorting gas vs. oil.

Message 24783435


UNG short is doing well for me. If only USO would follow.



CDE still outperformming gold and Hui index-



Have I mentioned that_ _ _ _ _ (vbg)?

Ron



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (10922)8/8/2008 7:57:11 AM
From: SliderOnTheBlack  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 50505
 
Stock Wars: Surviving the Darkside of Deleveraging...



How 'bout some tips, tricks, and techniques for surviving
the brutal attacks from the darkside, and deleveraging?

Technique #1 -- Patience.

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
-- Napoleon Bonaparte


Back in May I talked about the speculation in oil, and
natural gas. I thought "time" not "tape" would determine
the top, and that patience would be both tested, and rewarded...

==========================================================================

Message 24574487

5/9/2008 8:20:46 AM
From: SliderOnTheBlack
Message # 9538

re:["After a brief 'head-fake', the "PUCK" will be @
$150 oil, and $15 natty!!!"]

I can only hope.

That's my point, stand aside and give 'em some rope.

It's not just about price.

It's also about time.

As far as $15 nat gas?

Two different sets of fundamentals, and catalysts, for oil
and gas.

If gas continues to follow oil higher, nat gas once again
becomes a discrepancy between price and risk trade - short.

I've made two massively profitable short trades against
natty over the last few years, and @ $15 summer gas -
there shall be a 3rd.

So it was written - so it shall be done.

...bank on it.

Deja Vu all over again?



The whines of the beltway dinner party cognoscenti brought
pressure on gold, on defending the dollar, and on addressing
inflation. Gasoline prices are reaching max pain levels, and
the elections are just six short months away.

Politicians may be blind, but they aren't deaf.

Don't get greedy if you're long. Natty got cut in half in
less than a month, and fell from $15 to the $4's during
the '05/'06 bubble collapse.

Banks have a mantra: "know your customer" -- traders,
ought to be heeding that same mindset right about know.

Remember, you have to have a story to sell, and a large
herd that's not in, to sell it to.

And once the music stops, there's no more story, no more
herd.... only a very large crowd, in a very small room,
with only one, very small exit door.

SOTB

===========================================================================

Time, not tape...

While Nat Gas did not reach $15, it did reach a discrepancy
between price and risk, given the fundamentals of supply/demand,
and the deleveraging in the broad market.

===========================================================================

Message 24783435

Message #10923 from SliderOnTheBlack at 7/23/2008 9:01:44 AM

Deleveraging....

I like the risk:reward in the nat gas short better than oil.
It broke first, and is at a critical pivot point right now,
with $7/$8 waiting in the wings. Now down -21% since
the 4th of July.



And it's not just nat gas & oil... the CRB is down
-10% since the 4th of July. With the US Dollar holding
up (for now) and forming a base, gold is actually
hanging tough, and continues to be stronger, and less
volatile than the gold stocks.

I think Bernanke is letting the recession play out, which
in turn is collapsing commodities, and when/if oil breaks
$110ish...and if we see any positive economic
indicators and a stable DOW... we'll see our first rate hike.

Amazing how the rise in oil and the collapse in financials,
brought the markets to the brink of collapse, and have
now turned on a dime... like doing a U-turn with the QE II.

Later tonight I'll try to post some interesting anecdotal
evidence of a serious shoe yet to drop... major cutbacks
in state and local governments due to huge budget shortfalls.

Major layoffs coming from the public sector...

We shall see if Bernanke & Co. can manage this de-
leveraging phase without having to massively re-inflate
to stop the carnage.

SOTB

=======================================================================

One technique than can keep you in the game is hedging.
You can do that via option strangles and straddles, or
merely by buying puts for insurance. And you can do it
buy shorting another sector (nat gas) that has potentially
more downside than the sector you desire to stay long in,
and maintain upside leverage to (gold).

I've talked about keeping gold (the metal, or GLD) vs.
gold stocks as your "core hold" during these corrections,
as it has had much less downside than the stocks on
corrections.

Here's how that strategy has played out over the last
couple of weeks:



Since my July 23rd post above, Nat Gas is down nearly twice
the level of Gold (And 3x the drop in Oil).

Nat Gas is down another -15% vs. -7% for Gold.

And gold stocks are down 2 x the correction in gold, with the
HUI index down -15% vs. -7% for Gold/GLD.

That hedge, should be in addition to the put/short profits
you've begun to cash in at the bottom of the HUI's trading
range here...

Message 24784986



And I said -- "begin" to cash in, because the fundamentals
for gold and gold stocks have changed. And that's where
the next debate can now begin...

Have the fundamentals for gold changed?

-- How?
-- Why?
-- What to do?

We're only beginning to cash in our puts (about half) here
on this HUI correction because of our belief that the
fundamentals have changed, and that our downside risk
for the HUI Gold Stock Index is NOW back down
to the August 2007 lows of HUI 280-300. We've continually
lowered and brought our stops down as the HUI continues
to correct. We took about half of our put profits between
HUI 385 and yesterday's 360 levels, and we are holding
the remaining half, with stops set between 385-400, in
anticipation of a potential re-test of that Aug,
2007 low.

And we've only begun to tread lightly into buying, and
re-establishing our longsided upside...via carefully
selected individual stocks, and giving up some nearterm
upside for "time" via LEAPS and long dated calls.

Remember, the last "Trading Range" in Gold, and Gold Stocks
took nearly a year and a half to play out.

More on the strategy of what to buy, and how to buy later,
as well as my thoughts on what's changed for the fundamentals
of gold... why it's changed... and what to do.

May the Force be with you,



Mo later,

S.O.T.B.