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To: epicure who wrote (82630)	9/7/2008 10:20:33 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541701

The biggest problem with McCain (for a liberal) is I share those concerns. They are serious concerns. Two among a pile of serious concerns. I don't know if Obama would or could do it, but it would be nice if he did. Exactly. The only thing we can be reasonably sure he would do is spend more money. I have trouble finding comfort in that. Particularly when that seems to be his answer to every perceived need, not just education. I do think there are large and meaningful differences between McCain and Obama I agree. Unfortunately, for me, they don't all weigh in one direction so it's a question of risk assessment and prioritization. Which still has not produced for me a candidate for whom I can comfortably vote. I've seen a lot more devil effect elsewhere and a lot more halo effect. I can't argue that that's a typical reaction in any advocacy scenario, no more prominent here than anywhere else. But, speaking as someone who has been inactive lately as the thread has become consumed with the horse race, in which I do not yet have a pick, the thread has become much more like that dreaded "other" thread than those actively engaged could likely recognize. FWIW.

To: epicure who wrote (82630)	9/7/2008 10:25:56 AM
From: slacker711	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541701

but in some ways I think just as "Only Nixon could go to China"- it is perhaps true that only a progressive can take on the teacher's unions. I agree with this, but while his rhetoric occasionally suggests a willingness to do this, nothing in his record demonstrates that he is willing to stand up to the party base. OTOH, you have McCain....who has fallen all over himself to please the base right now but has a long record of standing up to the party. Not exactly a clear cut choice, though I'll say that both are more likely to have this quality than the candidates in either of the last two elections. Slacker