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To: Rambi who wrote (94182)	11/5/2008 6:51:29 PM
From: ManyMoose	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541556

Ammo Cool name for a kid!

To: Rambi who wrote (94182)	11/5/2008 6:51:37 PM
From: Dale Baker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541556

I don't see Obama going out and trying to sell the other side on his own agenda; rather, he will create a new political reality with his administration that voters like your boys (and us) can get excited about and feel is doing the right thing and getting something done, and success can snowball from there if all goes well. IOW, those who argue in 2010 and 2012 for the need for a radical departure to some other governing philosophy are going to get a lot of "Huh? Why?" in response. This is so much like the Dems in the 1980's it's uncanny.

To: Rambi who wrote (94182)	11/6/2008 1:12:40 AM
From: Neeka	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541556

Interesting Rambi! My boys each called around 7 pm election night to ask how the election was going? You see, they were both working overtime to finish jobs their employer sent them on. Out of town and trying to finish enough for the week to leave early so they could get home to their families for the weekend. They were most interested to learn if the conservative values they learned as children were being respected or discarded. You see.......they've felt the same way many conservatives have felt.........dis-respected and belittled. They wanted confirmation that what they believe is valid and good. I assured them it was, and told them to hang on and keep faith in their own abilities and strengths. They didn't seem to give any thought to invasive and judgmental opinions you see, because they are so full of conviction. They are both every parent's dream. ;)

To: Rambi who wrote (94182)	11/6/2008 12:03:37 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541556

Laws on marriage, abortion, religion in schools, refusal to provide birth control in third world countries, the things they would see as dictating moral decisions to others- These aren't going to fly with a lot of young people. They may may a personal decision on them that agrees with conservatives, but the priority of personal choice trumps absolutism. The laws on marriage are perhaps the best case for an argument for a lack of inclusion, but the Republicans aren't really trying to change anything here the Democrats are. Also the laws on marriage have wide spread support, they aren't the reason for the Republicans unpopularity. Allowing abortion is being less inclusive, as you are excluding human beings from the protection of the law and allowing them to be killed. Also while the country is overall a pro-choice country, a majority of people want more restrictions on abortion. Religion in schools? On a national level Republicans have done just about nothing on this issue. Bush hasn't. McCain hasn't. There hasn't been a general refusal to provide birth control to third world countries. but the priority of personal choice trumps absolutism. In general the Democrats don't support personal choice any more than the Republicans do. Personal choice isn't limited to the issues you listed. Ammo can't believe that when I grew up in Va, anti-miscegenation laws were on the books til I went to college. It wasn't Republicans who passed those laws.