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To: Rambi who wrote (94552)11/7/2008 11:00:13 AM
From: Sam  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541572
 
This guy actually says that on his own website?! And it isn't a joke or a tool to teach people about the methods of these modern day Elmer Gantrys to help them avoid their tactics?

Incredible....



To: Rambi who wrote (94552)11/7/2008 11:07:34 AM
From: JohnM  Respond to of 541572
 
All sorts of ways to make a living. Capitalism at work. And all other such cliches.



To: Rambi who wrote (94552)11/7/2008 11:34:35 AM
From: Dale Baker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541572
 
I hope they keep pounding the drum loudly for the radical socialists and evil corrupt media and all that. It will marginalize the yahoos completely while Obama gets on with the business of building a real governing coalition.

And if/when he succeeds, the screamers on the fringes will be the kids with their noses pressed to the glass of the candy store window, with all the goodies they wanted completely out of reach.

The road to power goes through suburban soccer moms in swing states, not the red meat base.

Some tidbits from the exit polls Tuesday. Obama took the 18-29 vote 66-32 while McCain's only age group win was 65+. How many 20-somethings will be open to crazed winger appeals? He won independents 52-44; since Indies made up 29% of the voters, that edge was worth 2% of his final 6% winning edge. Again, how many independents will be open to screaming rants from the right and change their minds next time?

When they pitch the question by "ideology" Obama won moderates 60-39 and even took 20% of conservatives while McCain only won 10% of liberals. Will those 20% change their vote next time for somone who is a true winger bomb-thrower type? I suspect they might opt for a true small government advocate, but events are going to keep the US government role very large for a long time to come. It sounds like a certain percentage of conservatives want a well-run government, if they have to tolerate one.

First-time voters went for Obama 69-30. Chances are they will be repeat Obama voters too. He already passed their acceptability threshold.

edition.cnn.com



To: Rambi who wrote (94552)11/7/2008 4:30:27 PM
From: Cogito  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 541572
 
>>Sound familiar?<<

Rambi -

Eerily so.

I find it so odd that people on the far right believe thing like this: "The plan is to bring an end to the America we know and love; to bring an end to freedom and liberty. They want total control of what you see, hear, think, and do."

Liberals like liberty.

- Allen