Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Politics : View from the Center and Left -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Rambi who wrote (94808)	11/8/2008 1:30:07 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541429

"Even Dr. Laura" Rambi, I'm shocked, shocked, at this Laurian prejudice. I think you need to atone.

To: Rambi who wrote (94808)	11/8/2008 4:31:48 PM
From: Katelew	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 541429

I was responding, not to the idea of a gay marriage contract, but to Lane's odd supposition that when two consenting adults agree to something, there can be no victim. This supposition I reject. But let me just back up and say again that my 'NO' vote would simply be based on one thing. That is just my refusal to cast a vote that serves to legitimize a sexual behavior I believe God has asked mankind to refrain from. It's really just this simple. It's also hard to explain because behind my thinking is complex Mormon theology that is rather similar to Budhist theology. It has to do with concepts of eternal progression and spiritual perfection. We start with the 'hand we're dealt', so to speak, and each of us is unique. We enter this world with certain proclivities and we add to or subtract from these over a life that extends beyond death, trying to perfect ourselves spiritually in this life and after. Homosexuality is just a proclivity to be overcome. It's nothing shameful or disgusting, just a real obstacle in terms of spiritual progression. In terms of our character and intellect, there are important and unique things to be learned from a long term relationship with the opposite sex, and there are important things learned from the creation and raising of children in that relationship. It's all a long term process of maturation and progression during which time our natural proclivities have to be dealt with. If someone gives in to their natural homosexual proclivity, maybe even seals it with 'marriage', they are forever arrested at that stage of spiritual progression and miss out on what could have been, i.e. a richer and fuller level of spirituality. Some people come into this life with a really tough hand. So part of our own spiritual progression involves the efforts we put forth to help out and bring those folks along with us, i.e. I am my brother's keeper. That's why you would find that we don't gossip, judge or compete with each other. To become an impediment to someone else's spiritual progression is a sin bordering on evil in our theology. For me to vote for a Prop 8 does in a way make me something of an impediment. With this theology, it's logical that the Mormon Church in CA would work to defeat the proposition. Anyone with a homosexual proclivity is welcome in my church. They know they're supposed to refrain from sex as are all unmarried members. There are programs and counseling available if someone wants to work to change their orientation.