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To: Dale Baker who wrote (103321)2/6/2009 10:56:37 AM
From: Sultan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542201
 
Not sure if any one posted this here.. Enough here to start a little argument.. lol..

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To: Dale Baker who wrote (103321)2/6/2009 11:29:27 AM
From: Steve Lokness  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542201
 
The Democrats made their priorities and plans very clear and won the elections in 2006 and 2008, bringing about a political sea change in Washington. "Most of America" did not oppose that; without majority support, the Democrats would not be where they are today.

hmmmm? I believe you are misreading the last election. Democrats think they have a mandate to go back to liberal social programs, and they will be in for a rude shock come 2010. Democrats won largely - although not completely for sure - because of the mess Bush and republicans made of the last eight years. Democrats are equally able to make a mess.

ATLANTA (Reuters) - Americans voice growing concern over the cost of President Barack Obama's economic stimulus plans and assail as a weakness the disagreement in Washington over how to spend the money.

Two opinion polls show support dwindling. In a Rasmussen Reports survey, 37 percent of Americans backed the legislation in Congress, down from 45 percent two weeks ago, while 43 percent opposed it.

In a Gallup opinion poll, 38 percent wanted the bill passed as it stood while 37 percent wanted major changes.


uk.reuters.com



To: Dale Baker who wrote (103321)2/6/2009 12:48:02 PM
From: Rambi  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542201
 
The Democrats made their priorities and plans very clear

I am not sure I agree with this. Obama did a great job separating himself from the extremist liberal POV and coming across as reasonable, practical, with some vision. It's why I went with him. I don't believe that the center was sending a message that they wanted a fullscale liberal agenda, but that they wanted change from the Bush years-- I;m not sure they knew exactly WHAT they wanted, they just wanted OUT.

I can feel my moderate feet digging in when I read about emphasis on increasing the already massive government programs. For instance, I am not sure what it means to "increase food stamps".. The program is based on a formula that takes into account income, resources, and expenses. If they simply mean they are going to fund the increasing numbers who will be eligible during this downturn, why does that go into a "stimulus" package? Or does anything that is going to require additional funding-- such as extended unemployment benefits or more people on welfare-- have to be included?

The Dems should have trod more cautiously as they use their capital.