Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Microcap & Penny Stocks : CCEE Breaking Out -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Sean Reilly who wrote (7668)	11/3/1997 12:05:00 PM
From: Parker Benchley	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 12454

Sean, Things are rarely as bad or as good as they seem. Although they'd never win any altruism awards for this move, DelGiorno's aren't in allegiance with Satan. They're playing hardball with their business to protect and continue their positions. Greedy? Sure looks that way. Ill timed? Why break tradition? This may play out just fine even if the anticipation sucks for the moment. Believe me, I hate this as much as anyone here. I sincerely believe that Richard West acted on good faith writing his report with the information presented to him. (Just like most everyone did on this thread when buying CCEE.) I say the same for Ingrid and Stephanie when she was here. It appears that the "surprises" came from upper management to blind side one and all. Shooting well intended messengers of goodwill does nothing to help our position. If we're going to shoot anything down let's VOTE NO ON ALL 15. George

To: Sean Reilly who wrote (7668)	11/3/1997 12:16:00 PM
From: IncredibleHult	Respond to of 12454

Sean, Totally agree with the fact that using GB is a bad idea, if I haven't said it before than I will say it now. This is a broker-dealer that predicted CCC would EARN .10 a share this year. Barring a miracle this company will be lucky not to LOSE .15-.20 cents. I have never talked to anyone there but that kind of analysis is scary. GB is also the largest MM in this stock. The more actively traded it(CCEE) is the more money GB makes. However, I have no problem with anyone harassing the management of CCEE with alternate proposals. I expect some more positive press releases before the meeting. I will sell before the meeting because you can only expect VERY BAD news from Philly.

To: Sean Reilly who wrote (7668)	11/3/1997 12:26:00 PM
From: Rick	Respond to of 12454

Sean, SOMEONE JUST TOLD YOU: >>>>> Shooting well intended messengers of goodwill does nothing to help our position. In other words just do nothing to find out if they were well intentioned, do nothing to protect yourselves, do nothing to find out your remedies, do nothing to establish if their actions were illegal, do nothing to find out if their actions are unethical, which means if anything is wrong you do nothing to prevent it from happening in the future EITHER TO ANYONE ELSE OR YOURSELF. In fact you don't even learn anything to protect yourself in the future so it is bound to happen even to you again If you send the links to the places I suggest and the experts Determine that both the INTENT as well as the ACTIONS were innocent, you have shot no one. If those intentions and actions were not innocent they account for the POSITION YOU ARE IN and you should want it stopped in the future. THE CONTACTS I SUGGEST ARE TOTALLY FREE OF ANY BIAS EXCEPT YOUR PROTECTION, i.e. YOUR LAWYER, SEC. PA SUPREME COURT, ETC., ETC. WHY ARE YOU CONSTANTLY TOLD TO ACT AS THOUGH YOU ARE POWERLESS? WHY ARE YOU CONSTANTLY TOLD NOT TO EXCERCISE WHAT POWER YOU DO HAVE? Learning lesons when it is too late is never a good solution.

To: Sean Reilly who wrote (7668)	11/3/1997 12:32:00 PM
From: Gary Green	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 12454

Sean: I did NOT read West's report, and do not rely on him. I have not posted anything other than what I was told by West, and that was not much. He sells to retail customers. I did not know that when I called him. I thought, from reading this thread that he controlled 10 million shares. My purpose in contacting him was to ask if he was happy with the proxy solicitation, and if not, would he throw his clout (the supposed 10 million shares) with us small owners. He said he does not control shares because GB was only the broker who sold the shares to the retail customers. He then told me I was wasting my time appealing for his help, and referred me to Joe Marcus. I said all of this before. Nothing in my posts was designed to carry water for anyone. I am interested in seeing the stock price reach a high level so I can sell it. With the meeting fast approaching, it seemed to me that if concerted action by the shareholders could impact on whether management would agree to withdraw the proposals, and not put them to a vote, we would have to organize quickly. It was not for my own personal gain that I made the suggestion that I would consider voting proxies for shareholders who could not travel to Philadelphia. Instead, I made the offer because I could hardly ask the shareholders to organize together and then say that someone else should step forward with the laboring oar. Moreover, I believe that a simple "NO" vote will get lost in the shuffle, while a sensible alternative could smoke out management's true motives, and force management to play a more shareholder-responsive tune. Remember, the only thing I actually asked for was a serious and informed discussion of our alternatives. The fact that my own motives, supposed affiliations with insiders, professional ethics and other irrelevant issues has replaced and precluded any insightful discussion of what effective steps shareholders might take to protect their investments, leads me to a greater understanding about why the CCEE management has been allowed to get away with being stupid and self-interested. This thread demonstrates how easily distracted the shareholders can become. The sinking price of the stock probably reflects the market's view that management's resolutions will be adopted. We thus far have done nothing to prevent that from happening.