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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (563657)4/28/2010 5:07:25 PM
From: Jim McMannis  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574485
 
No doubt there are problems with enforcement. Maybe it's leading to a national ID card.

I also fear it will become another big source of revenue for the police like red-light cameras and they will abuse it to fill quotas.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (563657)4/28/2010 7:40:37 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574485
 
Ted, one more post on this subject. I've thought about the AZ law some more, and the more I do that, the more I'm conflicted.

We have to get a handle on the immigration situation, but I'm not sure I want to carry documents on me wherever I go. We're going to find ourselves in a TSA-like situation where old ladies get pulled over for their documents just because law enforcement has to treat everyone "equally."


Exactly. I am against illegal immigration but to use racial profiling to determine if someone is illegal is BS and a big waste of time as well as insulting to American citizens. Go after employers. Go after apt owners. Its a much wider net and you will ensnare many more people that doing ones and twos on a street corner or at a rest stop.

Or we can racially profile, which means only Hispanics (and probably Asians) will have to carry documents with them wherever they go.

Of course, I have to carry a driver's license with me whenever I drive, but driving has always been a privilege, not a right. If I take a bus or train, I don't need any documents. At least not now.

There's a lot more I could discuss, and I know I'm being vague here, but basically we've taken living in a free country for granted. Now that we're importing the problems of Latin America, we have to start re-examining the price of said freedom.


Look. Again. You go for the numbers. Most apt owners in LA who rent to illegals own thousand of units. You go to their office. Make them show proof of their tenants citizenship......valid SS numbers. Go to employers......make them show valid SS numbers as well. Credit checks will show whether an SS number is bogus or not. And if the apt owner or employer is not in compliance, they will get in compliance real fast when you throw a big fine at them. But the people in DC have not pushed this approach because the wealthy elites in this country don't want it to happen.

Or we could just keep calling each other names and playing the race card to no avail. Remember, I think the question of race will eventually become obsolete as more races intermarry and produce children that can't identify themselves as belonging to any one group.

You can't ignore the racial aspects. There are tons of Irish illegals in the Boston area. Rarely does anyone complain about them.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (563657)4/28/2010 8:15:11 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1574485
 
Just as an aside......after the markets closed, I ran to Walgreen's to pick up some batteries. I was standing in line and all the people in front of me were dark skinned. Slowly I got up to the cashier. When I got to her, she said "Hello, and then asked "How was I doing today?". I was the only person in line to whom she said anything beyond the price of the goods and certainly the only person she treated graciously. Otherwise she was pretty cold. I wondered how often that happens and we just never notice. The irony.......the cashier was mixed race.