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To: Trey McAtee who wrote (7694)	11/18/1997 10:18:00 PM
From: SteveG	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21342

<..according to SBC, they know where EVERYTHING is...> "... "I would say that 30 to 40 percent of the copper lines now in place are not capable of handling ISDN and DSL," estimates Bridges." (and wouldn't it be easy if they could just deploy on the other 60-70%? Trick is, they probably have to test 80+% of the lines in order to know which ones ARE clean) "...The logical answer would be to remove the load coils, bridge taps, and other offending devices. The problem is that in many cases nobody is really sure where they are. Poor documentation of these devices is only one of the many shortcuts taken with copper plant that, in some cases, was sitting in the ground for decades before the thought of using it for data surfaced. "Some Bell companies don't have a real good record of where that stuff is," Grabowich says. "They actually have to go out and map that copper piece by piece to certify it's free of load coils and bridge taps. That's a very tall order...." from teledotcom.com also review: wcmh.com Steve

To: Trey McAtee who wrote (7694)	11/19/1997 10:01:00 AM
From: NYBellBoy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21342

Trey -- Worked 4 months on strike doing cable maintenance. The billing records and customer info are fine. The outside plant records of which underground and ariel pairs are on is what i'm talking about. Why would I BS you. Tis is a systemic problem for RBOCs & GTE. Spent hours in a bucket truck trying to convince people 100 miles away that i was in one town and they kept insisting i was on the other side of the county. I am your friend. You have been an asste to the thread, why would I risk my credibility? :) BellBoy