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To: Return to Sender who wrote (54745)11/28/2011 10:18:36 AM
From: robert b furman  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 95640
 
Hi RtS,

Looks like your 9 to 1 day is today - if we hold current prices.

A strong close will ring a bell - NO?

Bob



To: Return to Sender who wrote (54745)11/28/2011 4:51:19 PM
From: Jacob Snyder1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 95640
 
<the actual P/E ratio here>

That chart is of the PE10. It uses 10-year trailing GAAP earnings, per Schiller. Other PE charts use pro forma, or 12-month trailing, or expected forward earnings. It is possible to use PE to justify bullish or bearish conclusions, depending on what definition of the E in PE is used. Many valuation discussions are really apples-to-oranges comparisons.

I prefer using PE10, because trailing 12-month earnings are always a lagging indicator, at stock market turns (both tops and bottoms). And forward earnings estimates are random numbers. I prefer using GAAP, with all its faults, because at least it is consistent. The definition of Pro Forma earnings is different from company to company, and even quarter to quarter.

<I don't mind a solid fact filled disagreement> I invite it. If I'm wrong, I want to know it. I don't mind being wrong; I do mind losing money.



To: Return to Sender who wrote (54745)11/28/2011 5:44:01 PM
From: Sam  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 95640
 
Their chart is using is using earnings of $84.13, reported as of June 2011--
multpl.com

Pretty obviously I haven't gone through the most recent SP500 reports and culled GAAP/non-GAAP earnings to see what has happened since then, but, without looking it up, I believe Merrill recently said TTM earnings were around $97-98. But I don't know if that was GAAP or non-GAAP.

And, of course, TTM earnings mean less than nothing if we are in fact heading for a recession in 2012. Or, worse, another credit crisis.