Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Pastimes : JESUS and FINANCIAL FREEDOM -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Cisco who wrote (177)	11/20/1997 5:09:00 PM
From: yard_man	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1283

Struck by your comments on "dynamic inspiration." I think I agree mostly. Re: Descriptions of our natural world and the perception of these events -- I think it is important to keep in mind what the Bible is and what it is not. It is not a natural history of the earth or a scientific document. To dissect it as such is to miss it's purpose entirely. Science, being the product of man's knowledge and reasoning about one dimension of his existence can only provide one view of the handiwork of God and that, not a very apt one. For the Bible is a desciption of the work of God in men's hearts over the years. Good & evil, divine purpose, etc. have little to do with scientific descriptions. I don't feel compelled to "defend" every physical desciption of events in the Bible as wholly accurate from a scientific point of view for that is not what the Bible desribes -- scientific truths. But I will defend the Bible as God's revelation of absolute and ultimate spiritual reality and the proposition that God created all that we know to exist.

To: Cisco who wrote (177)	11/20/1997 6:46:00 PM
From: Jim Armstrong	Respond to of 1283

Cisco, thank you for that response. I hear some incredibly strong echoes of "stuff" that bangs around in my own head and heart. This was pretty articulate, and I loved the Clifton J Allen quote. Somewhere along the line, I settled on a window metaphor for the Scripture. Parts of it are sure clearer than others, what with cultural differences and "code" words and phrases, and such. But the right stuff is what you see through it, however clearly or dimly. I also appreciate your integrity in saying, "I don't know." This stuff's so very important that you've gotta ask hard questions about it. And when you do, it's been my experience that there are quite a few of those questions that grind down to an, "I don't know". Sometimes the "show me; help me understand" requests get an answer, sometimes not. I'm okay with that because I believe there's an active teacher in the Holy Spirit, and it's His call what he reveals to me. I have the basic truths in hand, and I can live with them!! Nevertheless, there's a lot of intriguing stuff that begs an answer, and you cited some lulus! And some of the (pat) answers I hear just don't seem to jibe with the truthes as I have come to know them. So I go exploring (I think that's what I'm doing). It's nice to run into another explorer from time to time. It sometimes feels lonely out here with these thoughts. There be doubts among 'em, another nasty aspect of exploring. And Gregor, I agree with Cisco, why not ask some REALLY hard questions, huh?? You're some pot-stirrer! JimA

To: Cisco who wrote (177)	11/21/1997 10:32:00 AM
From: gregor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1283

>>>You have just hit on one of the most dogging and haunting questions ever raised by the Christian faith. (i.e. What happens to all those who lived before the coming of Christ or to those who have never heard the Gospel?) I must say you do like to open cans of worms.<g><<< Dear CISCO: You know, I'm in a way regretful that God didn't give us a better picture of his past dealings with the pre-recorded civilizations. It is so human to question that period to see if God allows" loopholes". One poster recently said that all salvation is by Grace, whatever dispensation. Gen Chap 6 vs. 8 " But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord." The present time demonstrates the "fullness " of grace, through Christ. I know that I have a hard time accepting this but while I have never let's say been arrested , when I was a child I was the meanest kid on the block, throw rocks, cuss, pull pranks, skip school, smoke anything I could get my hands on, thank God back then it was cigarette butts and corn silk-- we used to have battles with the kids from the next street over with pellet guns and BB guns, sling shots. Well you get the point..I still have not grasped why Christ went to the cross for me...maybe I never will until I see him and talk to him someday. It seems that my whole life is now consumed by that question. I just have to understand it more than I do now.. You know , I can also understand why it is that people who have been relatively, "good" all their lives question their need for Christ; for me however it is a "no- brainer". I've witnessed to enough people to see that as a problem. Don't get me wrong " guilt "has never been one of my hangups, I'm just one of those grateful ones. As far as your posts are concerned on the "other sheep", I looked that up in my reference bible..the writer glossed right over that subject, I mean I guess you could say it could be other civilizations in other galaxies. But I couldn't possibly add to what you said, for sure only take away from a really comprehensive, thoughtful, response..so on that one I think I will pass too... I'm in the book of NEH right now on some very practical ways to get out of financial bondage.....I'll be posting on that subject soon........In Christ..gregor

To: Cisco who wrote (177)	2/4/1998 4:21:00 PM
From: gregor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1283

Dear Cisco: You have been on my mind and also Jane asked of you. My hope and prayer is that you are continuing in every advantages of the Lord, and that your daily walk is prospering with much blessing on every area of your life with Christ. I pray you are living out and enjoying your inheritance, most generously left by He whom died and arose. I John 2: 21 " I have not written to you because ye know not the truth but because ye know it" vs 20 " but ye have an unction from the Holy one and ye know all things" vs " let therefore abide in you that which ye have heard from the beginning" vs 25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us even eternal life" I believe His word says it all what is on my heart. God bless you abundantly...In Christ .gregor