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To: unclewest who wrote (463926)	1/7/2012 9:21:50 AM
From: DMaA	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793903

If you only go back to 1945 you are going to come up with one set of lessons. I insist you need to go back to 1917 if you are going to mine the past for clues about how to move forward. One lesson, be prepared for the worst when a progressive drags us into a war.

To: unclewest who wrote (463926)	1/7/2012 12:15:46 PM
From: D. Long	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793903

The Independent wrote a few days ago that the plans calls for gutting half a million troops from the services, reducing us to one million service men and women under arms. That's a recipe for planned decline.

To: unclewest who wrote (463926)	1/7/2012 12:22:37 PM
From: goldworldnet	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793903

Harry Truman's image has been made over with the passage of time, but he wasn't all that great. >>>Without the intervention of Congress, he would have eliminated the Marine Corps entirely.<<< * * *

To: unclewest who wrote (463926)	1/7/2012 3:40:03 PM
From: Hoa Hao	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793903

Boy is that a loaded article!! One wonders what would have happened in Vietnam if Nixon had won in 1960 and had continued Ike's policies regarding defence and the cold war. Generals Matthew Ridgway, Maxwell Taylor and James Gavin resigned to protest the Eisenhower administration's "new look," military. I should still have "The Uncertain Trumpet" from Taylor around somewhere. Kennedy pumped up the conventional army and had the troops to go into Vietnam. Ike wouldn't have had the men to do it. The initial losses in Korea was just as much MacArthur's fault for letting the troops in Japan get soft and fat. Ike got credit for finally getting an armistice by threatening nuclear war as I recall. He also sent in SF "Hotfoot" into Laos in 1955 and planned to defend SE Asia through Thailand into Laos using Thai troops backed with US fire power. Was Kennedy so anti Thai cause he was Catholic that he shunned them and went for S Vietnam instead?? He signs a neutrality treaty regarding Laos which the NVA totally ignore. UW, I think you've been critical of our strategic conduct in the current involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan. In 10 years do you think that Iraq and Afghanistan will have friendly governments?? We build up big conventional land forces but our use of them does not seem to get us victory. Maybe Ike's "Massive retaliation" had more merit then we give him credit for.

To: unclewest who wrote (463926)	1/7/2012 3:58:01 PM
From: Bearcatbob	16 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793903

Uncle and all - a bankrupt country cannot be the policeman of the world. What the hell good does it do us - people hate our presence anyway. We need to defend the homeland and allow the rest of the world to pay their own way. Perhaps if we ever hear Yankee come back we could intervene again. We do not need to spend what we spend on the military. We are broke and raising taxes or cutting spending will only make us less broke. We are done as policeman of the world. bob