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To: Yorikke who wrote (228)	11/22/1997 1:28:00 AM
From: Harmattan	Respond to of 650

mnmuench, >>>Hey Ghunk, you still holdin that vaudeville act they call the Rim?<<< Guilty. Still married to that damn Rim. That pretty fine girl gave me a lot of money this year and then took it all away and then some. May God forgive the invention of mistresses. They kept me afloat this year. ghunk

To: Yorikke who wrote (228)	11/22/1997 11:54:00 AM
From: MSB	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 650

There is always a negative at the end . . . Sometimes, I feel as though I'm reading myself, but your name is at the bottom. What other threads in the Coffee Shop are you reading, but not participating on, on a regular basis?

To: Yorikke who wrote (228)	11/22/1997 12:51:00 PM
From: O'Hara	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 650

><>...morning mnuench...><> You said:.... I'm no fundamentalist, but I've never viewed Jesus as a soft and cuddly kind of fellow. As Shalom pointed out on one of his posts on his thread, ole Jesus was recruited by the local militia. I don't know where you got that idea from, I never said anything like that. I think you might have misinterpreted what I have said. Unless what you were saying was that: "I'm no fundamentalist, but I've never viewed Jesus as a soft and cuddly kind of fellow. As Shalom pointed out on one of his posts on his thread.PERIOD....and meant to put a period instead of a comma. ----------- ----------- You also said: "Maybe that was why he ran away to the desert for a month or so". Christ did not run away, HE went into the desert for 40 days to show us how we could resist the lies and temptations of satan (our enemy) in our lives, by using Himself (Jesus) as an example. And for other reasons not necessay to get into here. You continued to say: "He probably could have driven the Romans out of the Lands. Could have negotiated a good truce, made a place for himself in the Empire. Saved a lot of lives and given his people a Land they could call their own". Mnuench If Christ had done any of these things that you suggest there would be no salvation for any of us. No forgivness of sins, no way to be reconciled to God our Father. Christ was not thinking of Himself and what kind of empire He could have had....He was thinking of you and me. He was thinking of your family your friends, my fam. my friends..He was thinking of the world mnmuench. He could have had 1000's of angels at His side in a second, He could have just blinked and have stopped the men from beating Him. He could have disappeared from in the midst of them all who were beating and torturing Him. He had the power to cause the Mts. to fall on all of them. It is a mistake for any one to think that Jesus was powerless, and it is even more of a mistake for any one to think He should have negotiated His way out of your salvation. By doing it the way that He did.......He saved a whole world of lives.!Including yours. You went on to say: "Hell we might as well blame the holocaust on him",... That's as unbelievable a statement as a coroner who would have said at the site of a deadly drunken car crash;... This is the fault of Henry Ford....Does that make sense to you? Come on muench how can it? You added that, He Jesus, was a: "lazy damn wimp". He took the sins of you and me and the rest of mankind on His sinless character. He was tortured, beaten, spat uopn, ridiculed and crucified, so that we as sinfull, worthless, lazy damn wimps could have eternal life. He the Son of God, God Himself in the flesh, and soon to come again as King of Kings and Lord of Lords,stood before Pilate prepared to be murdered because He had you on His mind. Your sins muench, my sins, the sins of the world muench are the resons He gave His life! He gave His life so that we lazy damn wimps could have life. Those nails hammered into His courageous loving precious, body di not hold him on that cross. His love for you did!!.......No greater love hath man then He who would lay His life down for a friend. And Muench whether or not you believe this, does not change the truth of it. ---------- ---------- Our time here muench is a lot shorter than we think (compared to eternity), even if we do live to be 90. Why then should we spend it knocking and comdemming even one person no less the Son of God, God in the flesh, the Saviour of the world. I'm just like you muench a sinner, a worthless lazy wimp of a sinner, but Christ had/has nothing to do with my sins except for the fact that He died for them!!. The difference between you and me is that I recognize what He did.....He died for me....now I will live for Him. have a good weekend Shalom...><>

To: Yorikke who wrote (228)	11/22/1997 2:09:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker	Respond to of 650

Dear, dear Muench-kin, thank you for writing, and I shall take much time to see what you are saying. A very interesting story indeed, and there is much to talk about. You are truly the fox in the Little Prince at this point, and in all literature he may be the most endearing of creatures, so yes, we shall continue to discuss these important things whenever you care to dart out of your woods to talk, and hopefully Shalom will join us, as he has much to say and that not of himself, but only of the Truth, the whole Truth, and nothing but the Truth. There is no one that has been more betrayed, more beaten down, more disappointed, and most disgusted than myself with the condition of the human product of the Judeo-Christian original intent. Can say with great truth, Muench, and God bears witness, that had He not slammed me so hard at the first with His indescribable beauty and love that I would never have made it past the first year of the honeymoon we all enjoy-- that comes with the package, and so quickly becomes the parched valley-- and all you have is people doing their thing. Often it only obliterates His image!. I refer to Hinds Feet and High Places, and Pilgrim's Progress, because in that all has been said that can ever be said, were a million Christian monkeys to play upon a million keyboards for a million years, they could not rewrite it better. I am mourning the momentary fade to black of my friend G-hunk.