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To: Farmboy who wrote (66377)2/21/2012 9:53:43 PM
From: Wayners  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 103300
 
If marijuana and heroin don't do anything to a brain, why isn't there a 50/50 split between drug users in the liberal vs. conservative community? NO...they are all decidedly in the liberal philosophy...in fact they believe they are channeling higher beings telling them to act and believe in liberal ways while doing all kinds of drugs especially the psychedelic types.



To: Farmboy who wrote (66377)2/21/2012 9:56:34 PM
From: Gersh Avery1 Recommendation  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 103300
 
LOL ..

OK .. Please correct me here.

You presume that marijuana is a gateway to heroin addiction.

That would mean it changes something in the user of the marijuana. Some change that would be reflected in the way the subject would respond to heroin in the future. Sounds like a permanent change.

Isn't that what gateway means?

Now opiate pill consumption .. THERE you have something.

It is the opiate "feeling." Most folks are better off not ever feeling it.

There are many that become single use addicts with opiates. One single exposure and their life is over.

Do I talk your area now? Think I might understand?

I don't want that kind of hungry.

So then .. two kids. One is hungry for marijuana, the other is hungry for oxy's.

Which one heads for the heroin dealer? The one on the highway that was approved by the FDA.

And in lab rats .. the other path has been shown to reduce opiate appetite. There I'm trying to talk cause and effect.

Not much placebo effect in lab rats.

It carries through in humans also.

About 80% of chronic pain patients are able to completely get off the pills.
We have had over 100,000 patients register for the medical marijuana program in Michigan.
I feel it's safe to say, we have removed more that 50,000 opiate users from the state of Michigan. We did it by allowing them to use something else instead of the opiates.



To: Farmboy who wrote (66377)2/21/2012 10:35:52 PM
From: Honey_Bee2 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 103300
 
I told him that too -- that most hard drugs addicts begin with marijuana. He refuses to consider the possibility.

Makes me wonder if he doesn't KNOW it's true.