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To: Solon who wrote (21807)	3/1/2012 8:52:35 PM
From: average joe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

Humbly report, sir, another great quote from the Good Soldier Svejk. “The famous field altar came from the Jewish firm of Moritz Mahler in Vienna, which manufactured all kinds of accessories for mass as well as religious objects like rosaries and images of saints. The altar was made up of three parts, lberally provided with sham gilt like the whole glory of the Holy Church. It was not possible without considerable ingenuity to detect what the pictures painted on these three parts actually represented. What was certain was that it was an altar which could have been used equally well by heathens in Zambesi or by the Shamans of the Buriats and Mongols. Painted in screaming colors it appeared from a distance like a coloured chart intended for colour-blind railway workers. One figure stood out prominently - a naked man with a halo and a body which was turning green, like the parson's nose of a goose which has begun to rot and is already stinking. No one was doing anything to this saint. On the contrary, he had on both sides of him two winged creatures which were supposed to represent angels. But anyone looking at them had the impression that this holy naked man was shrieking with horror at the company around him, for the angels looked like fairy-tale monsters and were a cross between a winged wild cat and the beast of the apocalypse. Opposite this was a picture which was meant to represent the Holy Trinity. By and large the painter had been unable to ruin the dove. He had painted a kind of bird which could equally well have been a pigeon or a White Wyandotte. God the Father looked like a bandit from the Wild West served up to the public in an American film thriller. The Son of God on the other hand was a gay young man with a handsome stomach draped in something like bathing drawers. Altogether he looked a sporting type. The cross which he had in his hand he held as elegantly as if it had been a tennis racquet. Seen from afar however all these details ran into each other and gave the impression of a train going into a station.” Jaroslav Hašek, The Good Soldier Švejk

To: Solon who wrote (21807)	3/2/2012 12:34:34 AM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

Republicans fail to overturn Obama mandate for birth control coverage; tight vote in Senate finance.yahoo.com There are religious views regarding birth control ? Still ? lol Ya know its so fetching these enduring phony political posturings disguised as religion , considering 75% of catholic women use birth control all you can say is wtf, how plainly duplicitous. As if they hadn't got better things to do ? Posturing , charades , pretending .... the core "PCP" of feigned belief .

To: Solon who wrote (21807)	3/2/2012 2:31:59 AM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 69300

"these FUNDAMENTAL Rights cannot be LEGALLY and MORALLY abridged." Message 27981822 "I, of course, completely believe that countries can withdraw the admission of human rights and freedoms." You talk out of either side of your mouth depending on which way the wind is blowing. WHAT A SHOCK! <<<"If your rights supersede mine just because I may happen to be dependant on you, then these "rights" are not universal at all.">>> "Yes--but your conditional fails the test of truth. My rights do NOT supersede yours. Don't conflate rights with intelligence." Don't conflate insults for reason. Thanks for conceding the point. <<<"If however you are aware that certain naredowells have occupied your barn, and you proceed to exercise your "right" to burn down that barn anyway, (even though they don't have permission to be in your barn) then you sir, will have committed an act of murder and will be found guilty of depriving those poor souls of their legitimate right to life." >>> "I am not in the habit of burning down barns" <<<"It's exactly the same thing with abortion.">>> "Abortion has nothing to do with burning down barns." That's an idiotic response to a perfectly legitimate analogy. <<<"Once you know that there is another human being involved, then your rights are mitigated by that fact." >>> "As I explained, it is impossible to grant rights to all living things. As humans we must draw rational legal and moral lines that preserve the right to reproductive choice and the right to eat carrots. *Because without rights* we HAVE NO rights."** Again: Human rights are not granted, they are endowed by our Creator as the American forefathers recognized long before the United Nations. "Violation of fundamental rights is more than indecent: It is obscene" You just said that you: "completely believe that countries can withdraw the admission of human rights and freedoms." Which is it? All you do is beg the question of the Humanity of the unborn. Only you can't use science or reason to do it so you are left with nothing but baffle-gag and emotional pleading. All Human beings deserve EQUAL treatment and enjoy EQUAL RIGHTS. Killing other Humans is not a right.