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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (199555)8/31/2012 5:45:45 PM
From: Metacomet  Respond to of 542946
 
Resistant bugs however have the danger of sending us back to the stone age. To the best of my understanding, Obama care does not address this.

She had tears in her eyes when she said she had no way of paying these bills. Obamacare is not a solution to our health care needs. .


You really need to get more coherent

I don't think anyone has suggested that the ACA was a panacea

In fact it was the absolute minimum that they could get past an entrenched, insurance owned, GOP

As such, it was and is a gigantic windfall for insurance companies, to get it thru, and it provides medical care for millions of Americans who would otherwise have no coverage, in some ways a devils bargain, but a lot of us think it was an improvement over the nothing that previously existed for those folks

If enough well meaning people got behind the real insurance program that the US needs, full blown, single payer cradle to grave coverage for everyone, you could start to criticize the shortcomings

However that cannot happen as long as the free market capitalists rant about the necessity to keep health care a profit making industry

As it is, health care is still a for profit industry and your observations will continue apace



To: Steve Lokness who wrote (199555)8/31/2012 6:45:12 PM
From: Sam  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542946
 
Doesn't compare to C. diff, but the new variant of swine flu is starting to affect people. Let's be careful out there!

1st death linked to new swine flu is Ohioan
By Amanda Lee Myers, The Associated Press
usatoday.com

CINCINNATI – The death of a 61-year-old Ohio woman is the first in the nation associated with a new swine flu strain, the state Department of Health said Friday.

The woman, whose identity was not released, was from central Ohio's Madison County and died this week following an illness she contracted after having contact with hogs at the Ross County Fair.

The woman had underlying medical conditions, but the H3N2v influenza virus may have contributed to her death, the department said.

The strain was found in U.S. pigs in 2010 and people in July 2011, and it appears to spread more easily from swine to humans than other flu viruses, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has said.

The death was among 12 new cases of the virus in the country this week, the CDC reported. Ohio saw two other cases. Wisconsin had seven, and Minnesota and Pennsylvania each had one.

Ohio and Indiana lead the nation with infections for the year; Ohio has had 101, while Indiana has had 138, according to the CDC.

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  • Twelve people across the nation were infected last year, compared with 289 so far this year, according to the CDC.

    Ted Wymyslo, director of the Ohio Department of Health, said most of Ohio's cases have been mild illnesses. People from 6 months to 61 years old have been infected, and many of them have been linked to contact with hogs at fairs.

    Wymyslo urged at-risk groups to avoid swine exhibits and take other precautions. Those groups include young children, older residents, pregnant woman and people with weakened immune systems or underlying medical conditions.

    Lynn Finelli, the lead for the surveillance and outbreak response team in the CDC's influenza division, said in a statement that the agency was saddened to hear of the Ohio death.

    "Like with seasonal flu, we have been — and continue to be — particularly concerned about people with factors that put them at high risk of serious complications if they get the flu," she said. "These people should absolutely not have contact with pigs or visit pig arenas at fairs this summer."

    As with seasonal flu, the CDC recommends that people with high-risk conditions who develop flu-like symptoms contact their doctor immediately.

    "Prompt antiviral treatment in a high risk person can mean the difference between having a milder illness versus a very serious illness that could result in a hospital stay or even death," Finelli said.

    Symptoms of H3N2v include fever, cough, sore throat, runny or stuffy nose, body aches, headaches, and fatigue.

    Copyright 2012 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.




    To: Steve Lokness who wrote (199555)8/31/2012 6:47:42 PM
    From: Cogito  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 542946
     
    Resistant bugs however have the danger of sending us back to the stone age. To the best of my understanding, Obama care does not address this.
    Obamacare doesn't cure cancer, either. But that hardly seems like a valid criticism, since it wasn't intended or offered as a way to do so.

    Let's say that instead of Obamacare, we had gotten Medicare for All. That would be a single-payer, socialized health insurance program.

    But it wouldn't cure resistant bacteria strains, either, would it?



    To: Steve Lokness who wrote (199555)8/31/2012 8:26:00 PM
    From: Win Smith  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542946
     
    Steve, you must be the about the only libertarian type in the US to endorse a single payer health care system. I mean, there's iconoclastic, but this is going to extremes.