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To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (510762)	10/1/2012 6:14:08 PM
From: Brian Sullivan	Respond to of 793958

Voters pick sides on Gov. Jerry Brown's tax plan September 28, 2012 The battle over Gov. Jerry Brown's proposed tax increases can be summed up by interviews with two Californians -- a 61-year-old retiree from Santa Cruz County and a 32-year-old mother of four from Riverside County. The retiree is Tony Russomanno, who has stopped working after a successful business career. He knows Brown's plan would increase his taxes, and he's fine with that. "It's important to give back," he said. "It's only fair." Russomanno, a Democrat, scoffs at the warnings about rich people leaving the state if taxes go up. “Where are they going to go? The Cayman Islands where their money is?" he said. The mother is Tiffany Axene, who takes care of her small children and works at the family business, a health consulting company. A Republican, she won't vote for higher taxes. “I’m just tired of seeing people who make money get taxed and taxed," she said. “It breaks my heart." Brown's plan, listed as Proposition 30 on the ballot, would increase the sales tax by a quarter cent for four years and income taxes on the wealthy for seven years. If they don't pass, the governor said he would be forced to slash almost $6 billion in spending, with education bearing the brunt of the cuts. The threat to public schools doesn't change Axene's opinion. "They’re already cutting programs," she said. "What else is new?" Russomanno and Axene were among 1,504 registered voters surveyed in a new USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times poll, which showed Brown is holding onto shrinking support for his tax hike. Fifty-five percent said they favored the plan, down from 59% in May. The poll also gauged how voters feel about the California Legislature, pension changes for public employees and a ballot initiative requiring special labeling for food with genetically engineered ingredients. -- Chris Megerian in Sacramento

To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (510762)	10/1/2012 6:49:57 PM
From: goldworldnet	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793958

I said 50 years, but usually technology is slower than people estimate. Apollo 17 was the last time we were on the moon and that was 40 years ago in 1972. God only knows when we will get to Mars. I do agree with Lindy though that automated vehicles will eventually be the standard. A century is probably a better guess. I believe that driverless cars will have a brief existence. * * *

To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (510762)	10/1/2012 9:55:21 PM
From: J.B.C.	4 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793958

Ok, here's my POV on autonomous cars. Even though google is developing it, I think it might be something that stays. And google wouldn't be the only ones making these systems. The fact is most of us here ride in autonomous vehicles quite often, they're just called airlines with autopilots. Did you know that today's commercial jet can take off, fly to and land at a destination airport all by itself? AND it's controlled by the FAA (A government agency) that tells the plane when to take off, how high to fly, what route, what approach onto which runway. All the pilot does is plug in the "governments" orders and make sure the plane continues to function adequately. Does anyone feel that the FAA is encroaching on their personal freedoms by flying in an airline that has autopilot capability? Quite frankly on tight approaches I actually might prefer the autopilot to relieve some of the pilots "load" for safety reasons. Last March we took a road trip from Denver to Lake Tahoe for skiing, by driving across Interstate 80. I easily could see ~ 80 % of that 18 hour drive being on autopilot. And I wouldn't have one damn problem with it. But I reserve the right to take control of my car when I feel the human element is technically more suited such as NY City driving conditions. Jim