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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (216342)	2/7/2013 7:17:49 PM
From: Alex MG	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541982

total BULLSHIT... seems like you are the one spewing lies instead of Krugman >>>"First off, democrats had no problem going along with the tax cuts. In fact you could just as easy make the claim that it was the democrats fault for not standing united against the cuts!"<<< yeah, you can make the claim... you can also make the claim that the tooth fairy is real Republicans' use of reconciliation to pass President Bush's 2003 tax cut legislation. Only two Democrats voted for that bill -- one of whom, Georgia Sen. Zell Miller, doesn't really count, as he was a de facto Republican -- and Vice President Dick Cheney had to break a 50-50 tie. (Three Senate Republicans joined 46 Democrats and one independent in voting against the bill, which these days would be described as "bipartisan opposition.") And yet, in the weeks leading up to the reconciliation vote, the media didn't portray the Republicans as ramming tax cuts through Congress via unprecedented use of an obscure procedural gimmick to circumvent Senate rules. In fact, they didn't say much of anything at all about reconciliation. mediamatters.org

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (216342)	2/7/2013 9:01:08 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541982

Economics is way more complicated than Krugman tries to pretend it is as presented here I could pretend to "love it" when you try to tell Krugman he doesn't know his economics. Just as sarcasm. But I'm not up to it tonight. It's one thing to argue with Krugman about his conclusions; it's quite another thing to say you know that economics is much more complicated than Krugman does. Ouch. Now if you want to argue John that demographics isn't a very large part of the mess we are in - then argue that point. But to just dismiss my comments because you are a Krugman diehard fan isn't fair. AND, none of these comments are meant as support for Bush policies in any way - they were as I've said the worst!! Actually, if you check back, I argued about the Bush policies being the singular major source of the large deficits we now face as a point I wanted to make. Krugman also makes it. As for demographics, I gather you mean the baby boomers. I suspect they are a small source of the problem but, at least looking at the current debt, they are, at best, a smidging compared to the two wars, etc., that I listed. But, as we often do, we'll just have to agree to disagree.