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To: koan who wrote (252933)6/16/2014 1:17:07 PM
From: Alex MG  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 540836
 
this is the most mind blowing thing to think about, time and space

where did time begin? but there had to be something before that... there couldn't just be nothingness and all of a sudden somethingness popped up

how can space have an ending point, there has to be something beyond that but how can it possibly go on forever but how can it not

it has to be a circular thing as opposed to linear



To: koan who wrote (252933)6/16/2014 5:33:45 PM
From: Katelew  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 540836
 
All of those questions as to who created God and where are the boundaries of space or can there even be boundaries, etc., I think occur to most people at points in their lives. Most people, inc. me, just have to set them aside as unknowable and leave it to astrophysicists to soldier on.

Biblically speaking there are a couple of things to perhaps ponder. In Exodus, when Moses asks God how he should describe or refer to God, God responds by saying "I AM THAT I AM"---taken to mean that God has always existed, hence has no creation point. In another scripture, God is referred to by John as the Alpha and Omega, i.e. the beginning and the end. The implication again being no creation point. If something is both the beginning and the end simultaneously it is something that always exists.

It could be that the word "nothing" is problematic. Perhaps there is no such thing as nothingness. Zero is a mathematical construct to fill in spaces and leads the mind to accept the concept of "nothing". But maybe we shouldn't do that. Maybe we should instead think of all the physical building blocks of the universe as things that have always been there and are just being re-shaped and re-cycled as time moves on.

But I have no certainties myself, just musings.