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To: combjelly who wrote (797905)	7/28/2014 6:46:52 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1579682

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To: combjelly who wrote (797905)	7/29/2014 2:32:47 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1579682

CJ, Because all of the international laws of war had not been formulated. So it was OK before "international laws of war" were formulated? Keep "nuancing" CJ. Tenchusatsu

To: combjelly who wrote (797905)	8/10/2014 6:25:13 AM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1579682

Hi combjelly; Re: "Because all of the international laws of war had not been formulated. That wasn't until the mid-1800s."; Between say 1850 and the present there were vast swatches of land that traded hands as a result of force. A good example is a significant part of the border between France and Germany (Alsace and what's her name) changed hands in the Franco-Prussian war (around 1870), again in 1918, 1940 and 1945. Seems to be stable now. But you never know; right wing parties are getting elected in Europe again. At least this time they're not under any population pressure. In fact they can't make up enough babies to take their fast food jobs or fill peacetime army drafts (almost). And this was by first world civilized countries. The fact is that what Israel would like to do (push the Palestinians off of their land and into other Arab lands) is perfectly legal for 1st world countries. Among tiny powers like Israel and the Arab states it also happens with some regularity. But they can only make it stick if the major powers agree to it. And that's what keeps Israel from winning this conflict. They do not have sufficient power to absorb the economic result of the international pressure against them. It all amounts to a propaganda war. That's why so few people are hurt, Palestinian or Israeli. It's like watching toddlers fight while wearing safety gear. It's like pro wrestling; we should send Jesse Ventura to negotiate, LOL. And that's why it never ends. No one is actually forcing anyone to do anything. By the way, an example of the use of force in taking land is under display recently by Russia. It might not work but then again, Russia isn't exactly a major power anymore. -- Carl P.S. Doubt that the Israelis would like the Palestinians to leave for other Arab states? My reason for believing that they have this wish is that they regularly talk about how the other Arab states didn't accept Palestinian refugees (when Jewish refugees were accepted by Israel). This logic is somewhat tortured in that it assumes that since person A committed a crime against person B, therefore person B has the right to commit a crime against person C. That may have been too subtle. Let me replace A, B, and C with the actors. Since A = Iraqis forced B = Jews to leave Iraq, it's okay for those B = Jews to force C = Palestinians to leave Palestine. From the point of view of "C", that doesn't make a lot of sense, does it. And on the other hand, the Israelis feel that they are totally justified in their actions and so the crap goes on.