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To: Alex MG who wrote (259283)	8/28/2014 7:11:18 PM
From: Katelew	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 540835

You make the typical argument and it's not without merit. But not everyone is willing to accept that anymore. The two black families I mentioned wouldn't listen to you for a minute. They are disgusted, angry and yet trapped by their skin color in a society in which vestiges of the old time racism still exists. In fact, blacks in general are divided on where responsibility for black woes lies. I read a recent Pew poll and will track it down for you. Like I said, I see a new kind of racism emerging around me but it is fractured into groups and sub-groups that cross all kinds of color lines. I suspect it will get worse, too, because we finally have an economy in this country which can't make room for all the people trying to participate.

To: Alex MG who wrote (259283)	8/28/2014 7:22:47 PM
From: Katelew	Respond to of 540835

pewresearch.org

To: Alex MG who wrote (259283)	8/28/2014 8:19:29 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 540835

There is something really wrong with black society in the inner city. Poor Asians come here and do just fine. They start in ghettos, and then...they leave. For the most part they do not become thugs (though there are some Asian gangs). So what the black community really needs to do is step up, and not give in to every one of the worst possible choices they could make. Is poverty at work? Sure. But Asians face poverty, and so do Hispanics. And no one has made a bigger mess of entrenched pockets of poverty than blacks. And no, "de facto" slavery isn't going to do it. That's really not much of an excuse any more. listen to Sharpton. He finally seems to get the responsibility side of the equation. And of course, let's throw some social services at the issue, but NOT while the black community isn't willing to pull the weight of reforming itself. That's like trying to do "regime change" in Iraq. You've got to have a buy in from the folks you try to help. Without that, money is wasted.