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To: Maxwell who wrote (27036)	12/21/1997 11:56:00 AM
From: steve h	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574122

Maxwell, Re:<<I will design a water cooling system << I can only assume you have seen this web site. kryotech.com this sounds like what you need and they apparently have resolved the condensation problem. let us know how it turns out and i sure would like to see plans of what you do if you don't mind. I don't want to build one, it's beyond my ability, i want to see how you did it. thanks, steve h

To: Maxwell who wrote (27036)	12/21/1997 12:27:00 PM
From: Investor A	Respond to of 1574122

Maxwell, Check Asus SP97-V on-line manual at: asus.com.tw According to my manual, it lists the (3-sets) jumper setting for the following multipliers: 1.5X, 2X, 2.5X, 3X, 3.5X, 4X, 4.5X One interesting note is that 3.5X has the same jumper setting as 1.5X while 2.1V has the same jumper setting as 2.5V

To: Maxwell who wrote (27036)	12/21/1997 3:11:00 PM
From: Buckwheat	Respond to of 1574122

Maxwell, Good luck on your 83 Mhz endeavors. The "real" performance gains to be made will come through faster communication with already fast drives and video devices. I've had good luck with the high end diamond video products at 75 Mhz but have not tried anything higher. I would be very interested in hearing what devices (ISA and PCI) that you find that have already been certified at speeds above the normal clock rates. This might turn out to be the key stumbling block to the implementation of higher bus speeds for socket 7 or Slot 1. This would also set the pace at which AMD, Intel, and others pursue 100 Mhz buses. Cyrix has used the 75 Mhz bus on the 200 Mhz for over a year but I'm not sure how the MTI and other boards handled the device interconnect speeds. Keep us informed. Buckwheat

To: Maxwell who wrote (27036)	12/21/1997 9:53:00 PM
From: Petz	Respond to of 1574122

Maxwell, the Shuttle 603 supports multipliers up to 5.5, but I'm not sure about the chip itself. Petz

To: Maxwell who wrote (27036)	12/22/1997 8:52:00 AM
From: Bill Jackson	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574122

Maxwell, I wonder if you could buy some tested K6 dice(as far as they can test), go to a custom house and have them plant it on a copper heat sink, with internal boiling fluid cavity, with a diamond film insulator(the thin deposited kind) then you can use a fluorocarbon boiling heat sink to keep the copper plate at 25-35 degrees C,. That way you could crank it as far as it could go and see where it stalls. You might get another 100 Mhz out of it. I suspect that failure mechanisms other than heating might make it stall. Try and start it at 800, 750,700,650, etc on the way down to see if it will run for a short period at very fast. In fact this can be done with an ordinary 266, just run it for 500 MS to test and then cool it. This would give you a ceiling, as it it will only run at 300 due to timing overlaps internally, then no amount of heat sinks will let it go to 500. But if it does run at 500 for the 500MS , then you can research the heat sinks. I suspect it will not run at 500 Mhz no matter how you heat sink it, but i have no idea where it will fail between 266 and 500. Bill Might AMD have done this internally for test points, etc. Once you have the surfaces and the dice in house it is easy. Bill