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To: Alan Markoff who wrote (10245)	12/25/1997 6:42:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Nancy, I'm glad you're around today. I have had very little to do with the Festival of Saturnalia turned "Christmas" for 10 years, and every year I enjoy winter more and more. Go figure, I can't. But most of my obligations are now over, and am getting ready to go back to work tomorrow, as we are all going to be there I guess. You keep speaking of Amelianism. That one has totally gone by me. What in the world is it? Who started it? That's really important, tracing weird stuff back to the source. It is always a human or small group with eextremely stranges ties and histories. If nothing else, this is becoming the "Slammed in the Head by the Reality" thread, which is probably not a bad idea from God's point of view. But please, if you can shed light on something that needs light, do. I'm going to look for it on the net, if I have the correct spelling. It will be fascinating if it leads to the nazi webs.....i

To: Alan Markoff who wrote (10245)	12/25/1997 7:09:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Nancy, can't find it out there, but I'll bet I know where it will be found when I do find it. "Amelinealism" correct spelling? Also, someone I think posted this earlier, or I stumbled across it, don't know which, but it looks great. Check all of the other factual mentions of Jesus other than Josephus and the Bible. I wasn't aware of them. Learn something everyday. ccel.wheaton.edu This is astounding history site. Look for early truths here in history. He has dug everyone's name up, and has pretty much proven that the Bible was all written prior to the fall of the Temple, as everyone knows in their hearts anyway, by the people named to have written them, but you may find other stuff there too. It looks pretty good. I keep hearing the arguments that all of the Bible was made up long after everyone died that actually participated in it, as you have too, I'm sure, by those who work for the enemy full time.

To: Alan Markoff who wrote (10245)	12/25/1997 8:05:00 PM
From: Sidney Reilly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

Nancy, Last things first. Please don't condemn me with Emile because I may have agreed with a point he made. That certainly does not mean I embrace everything he has said. I said there is no distinction between Jew or Greek in the Kingdom of God just as the Word says. The reason is we are grafted in and are the same spiritually. Our fleshly body and the race that body belongs to means nothing. It is the soul that is saved, the flesh profits nothing. When Jesus died and descended into hades for three days He took the keys of death and hades from satan. Jesus also preached the Gospel to all there and took with Him all who believed. The Word tells us many saw Moses etc in the streets of Jerusalem after Jesus rose again. He brought them all with Him. But we cannot make a doctrine of being saved after death from this. It was a one time thing when Jesus freed the righteous from hades. They believed God during their lives and waited for God's salvation and were freed when it was accomplished. Not all will be saved because they do not want to be saved. They would rather perish and because God gave free will He will let them have what they want. Jew or Gentile makes no difference. Bob