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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (922777)	2/23/2016 1:54:00 PM
From: gronieel2	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1571102

*... I've been to Europe to experience first-hand this socialist utopia that the left keeps talking about....There is definitely a lower standard of living there. The differenc* *e is that most people there don't really mind, or at least have come to accept it as inevitable....* My goodness what a broad brush you have Tenny. A lower standard of living in ALL of Europe because of Socialism. You point, with a hint of pride, to working in the Silicon Valley 70 hours per week. Have you been to Japan where they also work 70 hours a week? But they live in paper houses about the size of American bathrooms? Try getting your Japanese gardener to work 70 hours a week and see what that gets you. They won't even work in Milpitas any more. You just can't find a decent Japanese yard man anymore. Mexicans are much more reliable...and cheaper too.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (922777)	2/23/2016 1:56:33 PM
From: TopCat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571102

>>>I haven't been to Denmark, but I'd imagine it's the same, just like all of the other countries in Europe I've visited. I have been there....nice place, but not a utopia. Keep in mind that the poverty rate in Denmark, a very small country of less than 6 million people, is only slightly lower than the US.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (922777)	2/23/2016 2:18:29 PM
From: combjelly	1 Recommendation Recommended By gronieel2 Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571102

Lower standard of living? You must have been to different parts of Europe, then. I was in Northern Europe for the most part. Granted, the houses and yards tend to be smaller, but the population density tends to be a lot higher. The houses I saw had a similar assemblage of appliances. The cars tended to be smaller. Beef prices seem to be higher, pork prices lower. Corn is harder to find. Good wines and cheeses are cheap. Having to uses a coin to get a shopping cart is strange. And Sweden is beautiful. At least in the summer time. Perhaps you should spend more time out of the tourist hot spots. Paris and London do not represent the totality of Europe.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (922777)	2/23/2016 3:55:18 PM
From: Taro	Respond to of 1571102

Germany is pretty much the same as France, no more work than 35 hrs a week and God (actually the Unions!) forbid it to move a finger on Sundays, when all shops BY LAW are closed! Due to the strength of the Catholic Church? No way, Italy is all open over the weekends and don't tell me, the Church is any weaker there! No, the unions rule Germany. Sweden? First country besides Spain to abolish any laws regulating store hours and that was done by the Social Democrats back in the 1950s, which back then made Sweden the only European country besides Spain void of any store closing law regulations. Actually Sweden traditionally is very much like the US in so many ways in spite of the 'reputation' of being the almost commie socialist's paradise. A reputation these days seemingly taken over by Denmark. As for the standard of living, that very much is up to how you define it. In Denmark the car taxation is pretty much like 100-130% ON TOP OF THE NET PRICE of the car! Similar in Norway, actually... But then again, almost everybody own their home and there live like a count! Sweden, the standard of living has always been very high, the choice of any kind of products from anywhere in the world - unlimited! The nature available to everybody to explore, private or not, enormous! Taxes used to be high but got reduce a lot like 25 years ago under a non socialistic leadership..I could go on. Well, the so called 'fugitive' home made problem is threatening all of thus recently and it remains to be seen how Sweden, like the rest of Europe deal with this. Which reminds me about the 6,000 Cuban 'fugitives' now stranded in South America ready to rush into the US now, when the Cubans believe this window of opportunity might soon close as a result of the Obama/Castro love story developing... /Taro